Flex - Contract?

[AirChef]

Don't worry it's true!

announcement after the holidays.

 

[jonjuan]

Don't worry it's true!

announcement after the holidays.

Memorial Day, 4th of July??????

 

[hammer2]

Don't worry it's true!

announcement after the holidays.

Hey, Rick!

 

[DirtyBeech]

Gee, we made $180 million more than last year and still have to jack up our owner's prices to scratch out a raise for the crewmembers? Hmm...

 

[lunberg]

Im all ears.....Hope it will be positive.

 

[4mr72drvr]

Holidays of which year?

 

[SDCFI]

Don't they update contracts on a regular basis anyway? To account for things like inflation, changing energy prices, and the like? How do you know changing owner contracts has anything to do with crew pay/benefit changes?

 

[Flyingdog1]

Heard this before.... Here, look what we got you. We worked so hard for ya. No way, NJ can make money at that payscale and benefits. "Profit margins are so thin....."

Well, Flex has 2 and a half years (opps, sorry 3 years, since May is the magic month)of catch up, plus AT LEAST, equal to NJ's pay and benefits at a minimum, not to see a union on property.

Good Luck!

 

[doylehargraves]

Hey, Rick!

I don't think Rick is a USC fan. However, I heard from a few Reps that his information is true about the owner fees being "changed". Increase or Decrease, your guess! This IS good news for us, trust me. In the mean time, send in your cards!

 

[notapilot]

I just found an interesting legal opinion on topic with the original question. Go to:

http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/rod/newpdf/10/2005/2005-Ohio-3934.pdf

I have no evidence what Flex does in regard to the contract. I would think now as more people leave prior to 24 months they might consider collecting. Right or wrong it is just a possibility to consider.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

This case would have nothing to do with Flex. It is an Ohio decision, and thus applies only to Ohio companies (NJ and Flops).

But it does serve as a warning about training contracts. So many out there say that they are illegal and unenforceable. That is bad advice to give to other pilots. Assume that they mean what they say!

 

[bailey3083]

All I can tell you guys at this time is that Flexjet owner contract prices have officially changed, wish I could tell you more. Hang in there, the news will be positive.

This is just a smoke screen that management is sending out trying to get us all warm and fuzzy so we will forget about what really needs to change at Flex.

 

[notapilot]

Ed, that was my point thanks.

 

[skydan5]

This is just a smoke screen that management is sending out trying to get us all warm and fuzzy so we will forget about what really needs to change at Flex.

One of our crews (Flexjet) was congratulated by an owner for the upcoming pay raise. The crew asked "what do you mean?" The owner said that "management fees are being increased due to substantial pilot raises". So, like Airchef said...be patient.

 

[Wacopilot]

Why is it every GD time a question is asked about flexjet you get info about netjet?

Hey NJ pilots some guys may not want to work there so unless you are asked about YOUR company STFU PLEASE

The same reason every time someone talks about the NFL they bring up the Patriots.....

 

[Wankel7]

One of our crews (Flexjet) was congratulated by an owner for the upcoming pay raise. The crew asked "what do you mean?" The owner said that "management fees are being increased due to substantial pilot raises". So, like Airchef said...be patient.

Hum, if that is a case....could not one call and inquire about buying a fractional share at FJ .... and start asking questions...and maybe get an answer?

 

[CL300Pilot]

I have to ask, if you were an owner, and you were about to have to be paying more for pilot salaries, would you go and congratulate the pilot who is causing you cost to go up? :erm:

One of our crews (Flexjet) was congratulated by an owner for the upcoming pay raise. The crew asked "what do you mean?" The owner said that "management fees are being increased due to substantial pilot raises". So, like Airchef said...be patient.

 

[Nolife]

I have to ask, if you were an owner, and you were about to have to be paying more for pilot salaries, would you go and congratulate the pilot who is causing you cost to go up? :erm:

Yes... if I had the means to buy into a CL30 the meager couple of grand increase in management fees would be insignificant if it was sold to me properly as I'm sure it was by the Flex sales team.

The level of excess blows my mind every day. Then again I am a pilot and you know how copper wire is made.

 

[Club ORD FO]

and if this rumor is true, i bet they are telling the owners it is all for pilot raises. And yet I am sure they are using the opportunity to add a little in for other costs that have gone up over the years, or just a pure profit hike, yet the pilots will get all the blame for increase.

 

[DirtyBeech]

I have to ask, if you were an owner, and you were about to have to be paying more for pilot salaries, would you go and congratulate the pilot who is causing you cost to go up? :erm:

This probably wasn't one of our famed 135 owners who operate under the snatch and grab ideology. You know, the ones who can afford the lear/challenger to wherever, but not the catering so they snatch and grab everything on the plane to stock their shack?

It was probably a true owner who's pulse doesn't fluctuate over a grand here or there.