First Class Medical required by FO's to fly to ICAO destinations

[Tejas-Jet]

Thanks for illustrating my point. Medical standards are changing and you don't know and don't care, your words.

An FAA doctor in OKC says everything staying the same while at that very moment in time changing the rules to ICAO standards contradicting the position you are saying the FAA in OKC stands for. So what is it Tejas? Are the standards what the FAA sets or ICAO? And since ICAO is setting the standards how does that keep the standards the same as we have today at the FAA? It doesn't.

So you and the OKC FAA doctor are spinning this like CNN and company and the medical standards are changing and will change further. The paper work FAA Class One is going to be full blown ICAO medical which far exceeds FAA Class One standards.

Geez...do I gotta explain everything to you? What I mean is...if a 1st class is now required in France...I don't know why....nor do I care why.

All I can tell you is what I have been told....the current FAA 1st class standards are not going to change from the self reporting system we have now....even with the age change to 65...

...and the interval on a 1st class just might change to 1 year from the current 6 months.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Start flying to CDG. We'll talk then.

Don't really care to ever fly into CDG. If I really wanted to fly there that bad, I would've never left the legacy carrier I was formerly employed at.

In fact, when I made the decision to accept the offer from SWA almost 12 years ago....CDG never entered the decision making process.

Besides, the last time I was in Paris, it was your tax dollars that made it possible.

Tejas

 

[Flopgut]

Geez...do I gotta explain everything to you? What I mean is...if a 1st class is now required in France...I don't know why....nor do I care why.

All I can tell you is what I have been told....the current FAA 1st class standards are not going to change from the self reporting system we have now....even with the age change to 65...

...and the interval on a 1st class just might change to 1 year from the current 6 months.

Come on Tejas, do you not see how stoopid your posts are?

You maintain that you heard from some FAA doctor that medicals won't change, when it could NOT be more obvious that a longstanding medical policy was just tossed in favor of ICAO interpretation! Stop mouthing off and look at what people are trying to tell you. Can you read?! ICAO just basically told us what medical to carry, how long is it going to be until they tell us how that exam is going to be administered?

We are headed for astronaut physicals.

 

[Flopgut]

Don't really care to ever fly into CDG. If I really wanted to fly there that bad, I would've never left the legacy carrier I was formerly employed at.

In fact, when I made the decision to accept the offer from SWA almost 12 years ago....CDG never entered the decision making process.

Besides, the last time I was in Paris, it was your tax dollars that made it possible.

Tejas

Good for you. What I meant is that I would really like to see SWA try to start flying to some ICAO destinations. The way you guys taxi, fly, and talk on the radio, the French would ban you! You aren't even really suitable for Mexico; you exaggerate enough in a full radar environment.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Good for you. What I meant is that I would really like to see SWA try to start flying to some ICAO destinations.

Why should we when there is sooooooo much profit to be made from domestic flying?

Tejas

 

[Tejas-Jet]

We are headed for astronaut physicals.

What....9 minutes on a treadmill like some guy said on these boards recently??? What a laugh...

The medical standards may have changed in France...but they haven't changed here on the good old USA...where there are still profits to be made...

BTW...what is the status of that situation now? And is this just in France or is it the same for England, Ireland, Espania (Spain), Germany, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Belarus, and the others?

Tejas

 

[Flopgut]

What....9 minutes on a treadmill like some guy said on these boards recently??? What a laugh...

Tejas

I don't care if it's ONE minute! What did we get for it? How much money? NONE! We get to work longer, that's all. Thanks bud.

Taking a more intense physical over a larger number of years, for the same career earnings, is not what you call "smart" Tejas.

 

[Flopgut]

BTW...what is the status of that situation now? And is this just in France or is it the same for England, Ireland, Espania (Spain), Germany, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Belarus, and the others?

Tejas

Well, let me get out a globe and give you a complete rundown?!

From CAL: JAA will eventually set the standard. So you need to plan on spending your non-flying time either running or eating a fish. Preferebly both simultaneously. But first, CAL is going to have to answer whether or not the IRO has to be an actual captain. The rule says "captain qualified", which used to mean a type rating only. That was back when we only needed second class medicals....

 

[Little Bubba]

Few notes about ICAO medicals ( I have done them for the past 10 years)... 11/05 they changed the validty of a first class from 6 mos to 12 mos.

The exam DOES NOT differ much from FAA. The only thing that stands out is that they actually check your weight. If that is what you call "astronaut physicals", then you probably shoudn't be flying, period.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Contrary to what other posters would have you believe,


MEDICAL STANDARDS ARE CHANGING FOR THE WORSE THANKS TO THE AGE 65 DEBATE.

BEND OVER OLD GEEZER over 40.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

THE FACTS:

New from AIN.com dated 4/10/7

Longer Duration for Some Medicals Proposed
Under a notice of proposed rulemaking published today, the FAA is seeking comments on its intention to increase the duration of first-class and third-class medicals for airmen under the age of 40. Currently, the maximum validity of a first-class medical certificate is six months, regardless of age. For a third-class medical certificate, the validity period is 36 months for pilots under 40. The FAA wants to increase the duration of validity from six months to one year for first-class medical certificates and from three years to five years for third-class medicals for pilots younger than 40. Existing U.S. medical certificate validity standards for commercial pilots under age 40 in a multi-crew setting currently are the same as those of the International Civil Aviation Organization and, therefore, the FAA said it “sees no need to consider a change to FAA second-class medical certificate validity standards.” Comments on the proposal are due June 11.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

If you want the link to reply to the NPRM, PM me. I am only giving the link to those that are against age 65.

 

[TheBaron]

THE FACTS:

New from AIN.com dated 4/10/7

Longer Duration for Some Medicals Proposed
Under a notice of proposed rulemaking published today, the FAA is seeking comments on its intention to increase the duration of first-class and third-class medicals for airmen under the age of 40. Currently, the maximum validity of a first-class medical certificate is six months, regardless of age. For a third-class medical certificate, the validity period is 36 months for pilots under 40. The FAA wants to increase the duration of validity from six months to one year for first-class medical certificates and from three years to five years for third-class medicals for pilots younger than 40. Existing U.S. medical certificate validity standards for commercial pilots under age 40 in a multi-crew setting currently are the same as those of the International Civil Aviation Organization and, therefore, the FAA said it “sees no need to consider a change to FAA second-class medical certificate validity standards.” Comments on the proposal are due June 11.

OK. Where in this posting does it say that medical standards are getting tougher for those over 40? It only says that things will be easier on the under 40 crowd.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

You think this is where the story ends?

The over 40 crowd is going to be doing the astronaut physical if the age issue changes. Get ready. Start eating your fiber and lose those extra pounds because the over 40 change is next.

This is just the start and this NPRM is proof medical standards are in flux.

 

[80/20]

I have taken both FAA and JAA medicals for years. To me it seems like no practical difference and some times I have been taking both from the same AME. After age 40 the JAA was only valid for 6 months (same as the first class FAA). I am sure there are differences where FAA is stricter in some areas and JAA stricter in others. There are also differences among various JAA nations. I don’t like the terminology where we talk about FAA as non ICAO license or certificate since FAA is a member of ICAO.

 

[JimNtexas]

I have taken both FAA and JAA medicals for years. To me it seems like no practical difference and some times I have been taking both from the same AME. After age 40 the JAA was only valid for 6 months (same as the first class FAA). I am sure there are differences where FAA is stricter in some areas and JAA stricter in others. There are also differences among various JAA nations. I don’t like the terminology where we talk about FAA as non ICAO license or certificate since FAA is a member of ICAO.

80/20, you know when you post facts based on first hand knowledge instead of fifth hand rumor it kind of takes the fun out of these threads.