Find a new job you miserable S.O.Bs

[RadioClash]

Keep something in mind...

When I was in college I worked for AT&T Wireless in a call center in accounts receivable. Probably 90% of the calls that I received were from people that had not paid their bills and their wireless phone (this was back when we had car phones, mobile phones, and the lovely brick phone) was either turned off or getting close. They would whine and moan about the bill or that they mailed it etc..and we should not turn the phone off, nevermind that they are 60 days past due and owe us $900, back before unlimited airtime.

Well, after talking to people all day everyday that didn't pay their bills you began to think that NO ONE paid their bill who used AT&T. It was a small percentage of our customers that did not pay. I just happened to be in a department that took calls from the not so good customers therefore it was easy to form the opinion that all of our customers did not pay on time.

So what am I getting at? Most people that come to these boards and post are a small percentage of the pilot group. Not every pilot hates their job or the profession. I am under the impression that there are by far happier pilots than unhappy ones. I love what I do for a living. I have no regrets, yep I have complained here and there along the way but it has been a blast the whole way, from learning to fly, to instructing, to flying at a commuter, to where I am now. I wouldn't trade it for the world. Maybe to be a Major League Baseball player...

Funny story here, my call center covered the TX, OK, and AR market. At the time I believe FedEx had an accident with an aircraft in the northern part of the US. I think that it had departed ANC for BOS or something along the lines like that, well it crashed. Okay, this guy calls, lives in TX and we have shut his phone off, he owed us over $1000. So I tell him that he must take a payment to an AT&T store to have the phone turned on again. He tells me that he has already mailed the payment and to turn his phone on. So I tell him that we have not received it and he proceeds to tell me that it must have been on the FedEx plane that crashed. I had read the news on it already.

So I told him "sir, you live in Texas and the payments go to OKC so there is no way that payment could have been on a FedEx plane that took off out of Anchorage."

His reply was "Oh well, he!! then I will go make a payment at the store." And he quickly hung up.

Guess you had to be there.

 

[mpflies2]

When I was in college I worked for AT&T Wireless in a call center in accounts receivable. Probably 90% of the calls that I received were from people that had not paid their bills and their wireless phone (this was back when we had car phones, mobile phones, and the lovely brick phone) was either turned off or getting close. They would whine and moan about the bill or that they mailed it etc..and we should not turn the phone off, nevermind that they are 60 days past due and owe us $900, back before unlimited airtime.

Well, after talking to people all day everyday that didn't pay their bills you began to think that NO ONE paid their bill who used AT&T. It was a small percentage of our customers that did not pay. I just happened to be in a department that took calls from the not so good customers therefore it was easy to form the opinion that all of our customers did not pay on time.

So what am I getting at? Most people that come to these boards and post are a small percentage of the pilot group. Not every pilot hates their job or the proffession. I am under the impression that there are by far happier pilots than unhappy ones. I love what I do for a living. I have no regrets, yep I have complained here and there along the way but it has been a blast the whole way, from learning to fly, to instructing, to flying at a commuter, to where I am now. I wouldn't trade it for the world. Maybe to be a Major League Baseball player...

Funny story here, my call center covered the TX, OK, and AR market. At the time I believe FedEx had an accident with an aircraft in the northern part of the US. I think that it had departed ANC for BOS or something along the lines like that, well it crashed. Okay, this guy calls, lives in TX and we have shut his phone off, he owed us over $1000. So I tell him that he must take a payment to an AT&T store to have the phone turned on again. He tells me that he has already mailed the payment and to turn his phone on. So I tell him that we have not received it and he proceeds to tell me that it must have been on the FedEx plane that crashed. I had read the news on it already.

So I told him "sir, you live in Texas and the payments go to OKC so there is no way that payment could have been on a FedEx plane that took off out of Anchorage."

His reply was "Oh well, he!! then I will go make a payment at the store." And he quickly hung up.

Guess you had to be there.

I agree with this as well, I don't believe everyone or even a majority are old grumpy pilots. But those few that are always seem to tear the little guy down. Its like they have nothing better to do. They just wait till somebody opens themselves up by asking an innocent question then does it. Thanks to all of you on here who are helpful. Just wondering why those few feel the need to be the first to say something negative....like what mcjohn said about being a whore or whatever. Anyways, theres prolly nothing any of us can do about it.

Marc

 

[A Squared]

That's not what Linda Lovelace said?

Yeah, But she spelled it correctly.

 

[charter dog]

I'd have to agree with g4800x.

Me too, as I said in my original post. And I agree that questions asked should be answered with constructive comments insofar as it is possible, given the nature of the question. As to the ubiquitous bullies who seem to revel in any opportunity to verbally beat up on some impressionable kid, I'm afraid that's just the kind of behavior that is all too common when protected by the anonimity of a ficticious username. Personally, I prefer to address people on the forum in a manner as close as possible to the manner I would adopt in a face to face encounter. A majority of forum members appear to subscribe to a similar philosophy. Some don't. I merely point out that we are under no obligation to read any posts we don't care to. Better yet, try to find something useful, instructive or just entertaining in them if possible. If not, they can be ignored or even responded to directly.

Nobody with any real passion for aviation will be disuaded from achieving their goals by some negative talk from some frustrated individuals who feel like venting. If the realities of an aviation career never beat your enthusiasm down, good on ya! It may serve to inspire some old grumps to remember why they started out in this business, if only for a moment. In the meantime, remember the good times. That will help you later to find the good during some not so good times.

Best of success,

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I don't let them get me down, I just hate that someone struggling to climb the ladder see's all these angry posts, after a few years climbing, and bails out, we have all met them. Nothing sadder than someone who got close, but will spend the rest of their days wondering "what if". It just is not all bad out there

Get a job in the industry then you will understand, till then you are just steaming the window by peeping in.
PBR

 

[Uncle Sparky]

Well, the way I see it, there are two big factors that create the "we're all a bunch of whiney, @ssholes" perception.

First: One of the first things that I noticed when I logged onto my first few message boards, was the prevalent negativity and verbal abuse. It doesn't matter what board or chat room you go to, you're gonna be abused! I'd be willing to bet that Granny's Basket Weaving chat is loaded with flamethrower-toting, blue-haired nanny's! The phenomenon is akin to liquid courage. Anonymity of the internet gives people......cyber-courage?.?.

Second: From the first moment a pilot begins training, he his held to a standard of perfection and competition which exists in few other fields. It only makes sense! If "after a few years of climbing" an individual "bails out", good riddance! Sorry about your luck, but if you don't have the stomach for it, you're in the wrong profession. What is left over after "the bailouts", is a relatively small group of fiercely competitive individuals.

Combine the two and you have recipe for a good fight!

I have to admit, I've scrolled back through few of the more volatile threads that I've been involved in, and often times there came a point when I should've just quit while I was behind, to the point that the argument becomes, juvenile. It's the competitive, never say die, pilot in me that keeps me fighting!

I say that tough talk's worth DOODLEY SQUAT!

 

[g4800xp]

I agree Uncle Sparky, both your points make perfect sense. It is a burning desire to make the perfect flight, competition makes us all better.

PBR aimed this at me, "Get a job in the industry then you will understand, till then you are just steaming the window by peeping in.PBR"
I have been here a long, long time, one hell of a great career, not just steaming up the window.