Few Kalitta questions

[gringo]

1) What do they pay during training? Is the hotel included? Where do they do their training out of?

2) When deadheading internationally on another United, Delta, etc, do you get first class, or coach?

3) Do people regularly fly over min guarantee? If yes, approx how much?

Thanks!

 

[Junkflyer]

I think its $500 a week until passing ioe. Training is done in YIP on your own nickel, the sim there should be certified this summer. I believe new hires will still go to Louisville or Denver for initial. Months vary from only guarantee to about 100 hours on the real high side working days on. Don't count on anything extra past guarantee.

 

[FFFO]

do you have to wear your uniform shirt?

 

[embpic1]

Pay is $800 every two weeks in training. Regular pay after completion of IOE.

Most guys lose the shirt after they get on the plane.

 

[adams8251]

During ground school, no perdiem and you pay for the hotel. After ground school the company gets the hotel and you get $36/day perdiem. Training pay is $500/week until after IOE is complete. Gaurentee is 60.7 hrs. Sometimes you break it sometimes you don't.

 

[Junkflyer]

Is that you Larry Csonka? Oh yes, uniform shirts only if you get a real flaming @$$h*le, retarded, goat smelling Napoleon complex, small crank, jerk captain.

 

[embpic1]

Training pay is $500/week until after IOE is complete.

Aww hell you are right. For some reason I remembered it at $800 every two weeks.

 

[iaflyer]

When deading internationally on another United, Delta, etc, do you get first class, or coach?

No one said it specifically, but this is Kalitta Air we're talking about here - not the Kalitta Charters 135 operation.

For deadheading, whether it's international or domestic, it's all coach. There have been occasions where I've ended up in business for whatever reason, but there are few and far between. I'll point out that all our tickets are regular revenue tickets, so we earn FF miles on all our flights. Some guys have elite FF status with an airline and get upgraded at times because of that.

 

[gringo]

Yes, I´m talking about Kalitta Air. Thanks for the clarification, I keep forgetting that there are two other Kalitta´s out there!

How long is the ground school? Standard 4 weeks? Do any hotels in the area offer special rates? When you said ´until the completion of ground school`, I´m assuming you mean until the start of sim training?

One more thing- APC dosen´t mention it, but is there a 401k available?

Thanks guys!

 

[Floyd R. Turbo]

Standard 4 weeks is correct, maybe a little longer depending on when your exit oral is scheduled.

Red Roof Inn in Belleville offers 29.99 a night for Kalitta people, or did last year. They don't have a van so you'll need a car or a ride to the training center. The Hampton Inn will give you a ride to class. Both are within walking distance to a grocery store, several fast food places, Wal-Mart, Applebee's, etc.

Yes, starting with sims your hotel is covered and you get per diem. Also mileage if you drive to the sim.

401k is available, but with no match.

 

[gear_yanker]

The Extended Stay - DTW Airport has a special Kalitta rate of $24.99. They refund all taxes after you have been there 30 nights. They offer van service to/from the training center and they'll also give you a lift to the grocery store or the gym (free access to Lifetime Fitness). It's basically a normal hotel room plus a kitchen. Safe area about a 15 minute drive to the training center, but not much around if you don't have a car.

 

[iaflyer]

One thing that is coming up is that the Kalitta Air B747 sim is probably going to get certified this summer. When new hires go through training on it, the company might not pay hotel and per diem - because it is at YIP (your base). However, now when pilots are in YIP for recurrent, we do get hotel and per diem. So it might change - who knows what will happen.

 

[xtwapilot]

Actually that is not entirely correct. The contract states that if a crewmember lives beyond 60 miles from base, when in base the company will provide perdiem and hotel. That is why the company pays the hotel room cost and perdiem when we are in recurrent ground school at base.
How all this will effect newhires, or while in upgrade training, I don't know. I don't believe newhires are covered under this provision of the contract.

xtwapilot

 

[iaflyer]

Actually that is not entirely correct. The contract states that if a crewmember lives beyond 60 miles from base, when in base the company will provide perdiem and hotel. That is why the company pays the hotel room cost and perdiem when we are in recurrent ground school at base.
How all this will effect newhires, or while in upgrade training, I don't know. I don't believe newhires are covered under this provision of the contract.

Actually, the section reads...

Per Diem in Base
A crewmember who principle residence is more than sixty (60) miles from his Base will be eligible for Per Diem for all hours beginning when he reports for a flight assignment at his base or is required to be on reserve, other than R-3...

same for Lodging in Base.

So, the company is being nice by providing a hotel and per diem while in recurrent training. They do not provide the hotel while in upgrade training, btw.

 

[xtwapilot]

Yes I guess your right, though it could be argued that reporting for a flight assignment doesn't neccessarily mean you will fly. Hence the coverage of recurrent training under this provision. I find it hard to believe that as confrontational as the recent talks have gotten, that the company would do anything nice per se. It could also have something to do with the fact that we are forced to do the training on days off, hence, the providing of lodging. Who knows. I think hopefully this will all get addressed during the next contract and we won't have to worry about it.

xtwapilot

 

[AMANSWORLD]

Does anyone know if Kalitta is hiring?

 

[gringo]

They have a class starting on Monday- after that, perhaps October or so. Send in your stuff.