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Where is your diagnosis coming from? I might have missed that in the article. Hopefully your not refering to him as mentally ill because of the incident. IMO, what he did was sane, logical, and morally ok. Was it illegal, yup. Legal and right aren't always the same, again IMO.

I'd rather spend some time in jail for something I did then people judge me insane because they don't agree with my choice.


I am not in a position to make any type of diagnosis just speculation from the one sided poorly written artical. I did not call him insane them are your words I said

the COP needed and may still need medical help

I am wondering about both the subjects medical history
 
Too little information is provided on the nature of the crime or the circumstances surrounding it to comment...and what has been provided is suspect. Further, the conviction makes the details irrelevant too all but an appealate court...and certainly irrelevant to the question of future flying opportunities.

The question specifically is w(h)eather a felony conviction will prevent one from flying commercially...and the answer is no, it won't. The person in question's age might...but the conviction will only prove a barrier in certain arenas. Many utility operators won't give a stuff about the conviction, and certain government contractors might even find it intriguing.

I do have an opinion on the material presented regarding the circumstances of your father's conviction, but in light of his conviction, my opinion is irrelevant. So are any other opinions or details regarding what occured, except for the individual whom your father approaches looking for a job. Given his age, he may face an uphill battle in his effort to regain certification and employment, though it's not impossbile, and nothing will prevent him from doing so but himself.
 
Thanks again guys for the responses. I posted this link because is was the first I came across.. it is a right wing publication, but all you need to do is a qiuck google, and many more detailed articals and news links will pop up. He was featured in a half page NY times piece among others, and appeared from jail on Anderson Cooper 360, ABC primetime, and Geraldo... all showed him very favorably, and all painted a picture of the unbelievable circumstances that led to the shooting, and some are well known liberal media.

I will not continue to argue with those who stand in judgement of my father, because I know they have no idea how they would have reacted (most would be dead!) in a situation so extreme that it would be nearly impossible to replicate. I don't know how I would have reacted. I do know that sitting here typing this I can say that I would gladly exchange a year in jail for killing a person who killed my wife, mother, brother, best friend, you name it. My dad did not do it with malice or forethought at the time, the events unfolded so rapidly and under such extreme emotional duress that armchair quarterbacking is meaningless.

My dad is 63, and has no intention of any commercial flying, only to fly recreationally the way he did in the Cessna 170B he owned when I was a boy. I would like to buy something with him, and only asked the question because I would hope he could legally fly when I wasn't around to be with him.
 
No comment on the specifics of the crime, but, for ATP purposes, "good moral character" is still required, so far as I know.
A couple of nice avatars on this thread!
 
My dad is 63, and has no intention of any commercial flying, only to fly recreationally

Again, when your father applies to renew his medical certificate, he will have to declare the offense and specific details. I am pretty sure that regardless of the circumstances, a conviction for manslaughter is considered a crime of moral turpitude and any medical application indicating such an offense will most certainly be deferred for review by the regional flight surgeon's office. It is possible that based on the nature of the offense, the aero medical branch might opt to pursue medical disqualification. If you are a member of AOPA, I suggest that you consult with an AOPA medical specialist who might be able to better address the specifics of how the Aero Medical branch might proceed in this situation or at least point you in the right direction for more information. Another thought - but one I would suggest only as a last resort - is to contact the Aero Medical Branch and discuss the situation with the regional flight surgeon. For the Southwest region (Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas) the regional flight surgeon is G.J. Salazar, M.D. - http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/medical_certification/rfs/asw/contact/
 
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Issues of moral character apply only to the ATP certificate, and are irrelevant in this case.

The issues of morality regarding this matter are entirely irrelevant, as the matter has been handled by a court. Right or wrong, a court of law in full authority has recognized a conviction, and at such time that the person in question is released, will recognize that this debt has been fulfilled.

This person has no intention of flying commercially, as stated by the original poster, and therefore should have no issues resuming recreational or private flying.
 
Mesa would probably hire him, just tell him to get about 300 hours.
 
Nobody knows how they would react in the same situation. Maybe I would have done the same thing, I don't know. I do know that police officers have to make instant decisions and live with the consequences of their actions.
I personally think your dad did the right thing. I would also like to shake his hand.
 

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