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Goose17

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Ok, I have to pass this one along....


We had a Airbus captain jumpseating on our plane tonight that flies European SIBA (A-300s flying within Europe). He said he was recently in France and had some time off during the French Open. He found his way to the FedEx area (suite?) and introduced himself as a crewmember. They welcomed him in and he had a great time and also met some head FedEx dude of Europe. This dude (head of FedEx Europe) had a couple of minutes free between cell phone calls and asked the above mentioned captain what he thought of our upcoming pilot domicile in ZURICH!

The Captain said that it looks like they would keep the sort facility in Paris and have a pilot domicile in Zurich for tax advantages, cost savings, and more flexibility. He said guys would probably end up living in Paris, but the domicile of record would be Zurich.

Now, I am only a domestic 727 guy with little knowledge of the international side of FedEx, but I thought the information was a bit juicy and thought it was good enough to pass along.

I also heard that with this new international postal contract that we got (that was supposedly fictional), we will have 737s based in Europe, which will mean more pilots.

Ok, enough rumors for the night.

Goose17
 
Man, I've been hearing that Paris / Europe pilot domicile since day 1 when I got here almost 4 years ago. I would guess that it's one of those things they would like to do, but have found reason not to. I can't even imagine what the costs would be for a pilot domicile over there and what kind of costs the company would have as compared to deadheading X number of guys over there every week in First/Business. It is one of the better rumors ya here though. Haven't heard the 7 by 7 lately though (7000 by 2007). Maybe it's time to start that one up again.

I did hear something the other day. We're going to have 7000 pilots by 2007. Straight from the horses mouth. COunt on it. It's a done deal.

One more day of retro pay
 
Groovy--well even if this is rumor or not kinda have a related question--if you work for FEDEX and are based out of europe, and American (do they even do this...or they all europeans flying those routes) do you have to get your license converted to JAA and all that good stuff? I guess as an American you would have to have the right to work in the EU, ect. Just wondering though if you could be based out of Europe flyin for fedex without having to go through all the ratings conversions.

Thanks
LT
 
NTX:

I could be wrong, but the demographics of the FedEx pilots working for FedEx Europe are the same as they are here in America (that is to say, pretty much all American). JAA license conversion and holding an EU passport is not necessary as long as the aircraft stay registered in the US. There are a number of companies that do this (mainly fractionals and corporate operators).

Hell would freeze over before the EU authorities would grant Americans the right to work for a European-owned division of FedEx flying European registered aircraft. Any European company which falls directly under the working laws of the EU trying to hire an American would first have to show that they had made an exhaustive effort to seek the required knowledge/skills for the job within the EU (that's ALL of the EU). It's hard to prove that hiring a non-EU national is better than hiring an EU national (although, I'm sure there are exceptions). Essentially, it's easier for a European to work in America for an American-owned company than it is for an American to work in Europe for a European-owned company. It's one of the ways the EU has tried to level the economic playing field between its members and our country. Wow! That was a tangent! Sorry.

Skyward80
 
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skyward80 said:
NTX:
Hell would freeze over before the EU authorities would grant Americans the right to work for a European-owned division of FedEx flying European registered aircraft. Any European company which falls directly under the working laws of the EU trying to hire an American would first have to show that they had made an exhaustive effort to seek the required knowledge/skills for the job within the EU (that's ALL of the EU).
Skyward80
Not to divert the thread or start a flame war as this has been discussed here before, but it is the exact same requirement (mentioned above) for any US job for a non US citizen except executive jobs.

Other than that, it would be interesting to see how a foreign base would work out for FEDEX pilots, especially in a place like Paris. I have read on a forum a while ago that there is a french/american DAL captain living in Paris commuting to work to the USA. Don't know if it is true or not but sure sounds interesting.
 
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Originally Posted by skyward80
NTX:
Hell would freeze over before the EU authorities would grant Americans the right to work for a European-owned division of FedEx flying European registered aircraft. Any European company which falls directly under the working laws of the EU trying to hire an American would first have to show that they had made an exhaustive effort to seek the required knowledge/skills for the job within the EU (that's ALL of the EU).
Skyward80


Not to divert the thread or start a flame war as this has been discussed here before, but it is the exact same requirement (mentioned above) for any US job for a non US citizen except executive jobs."
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That is correct.
 
"Other than that, it would be interesting to see how a foreign base would work out for FEDEX pilots, especially in a place like Paris. I have read on a forum a while ago that there is a french/american DAL captain living in Paris commuting to work to the USA. Don't know if it is true or not but sure sounds interesting."
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Why not hire pilots who are willing to live in Europe? (to save money)

I know of a dutch/american nwa 744 capt. living in the netherlands commuting to work to the USA..


FD
 
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If one was hired at FDX today, anyone want to venture a guess, how long before one could hold flying in Europe?
Thanks.
 
In the latest SIBA European bid(A-300 only), the junior F/O was hired sometime in summer 2000, the junior Capt. was hired between 12-14 years ago. Keep in mind, these guys will probably stand reserve in MEM, but I think the only flying they'll do is in Europe, with the company deadheading them over there, with the possible exception of the last couple days of reserve, they can fly domestic. Anyone who's done the SIBA thing, please correct me if I'm wrong...
 
It may be more accurate to look at the last seat bid - I've been here 2 years, and I'm over 300 away from holding Airbus at all - I would guess 5 years just to get on the aircraft right now, let alone hold SIBA....
 

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