FE Written

[wms]

Does being in employed by a 121 carrier keep an FE written current?

 

[Dangerkitty]

Does being in employed by a 121 carrier keep an FE written current?

Yes............

 

[thunderworm]

only if they have positions for an fe.

 

[Fit59]

only if they have positions for an fe.

<--- That's incorrect. Working for a 121 carrier congruously, regardless of type a/c operated, allows for continuous extension of ATP and FEX written exam.

 

[propjob27]

Depends. If you are asking this question because you want to work (or apply) at FedEX, the answer is NO.

FedEX insists that the Fex written be "current", as in taken sometime during the last two years, to even process your application. They don't allow that exemption that if you've been flying for a Part 121 airline blah blah blah.

 

[DiamondZ]

what if the person has been sitting in the FedEX hiring pool for 6 months or so and the 2 yr mark is approaching?

 

[Falconjet]

That person needs to keep his/her FE written current.

No ands ifs or buts.

FJ

 

[DiamondZ]

That person needs to keep his/her FE written current.

No ands ifs or buts.

FJ

dang

 

[Purpled]

what if the person has been sitting in the FedEX hiring pool for 6 months or so and the 2 yr mark is approaching?

If you're in the pool and in this situation, I would give KD a call before you go and re-take it.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

The expiration date is on the FE exam (just looked at mine). My understanding is that unless you have the certificate, the exam does indeed expire. Like the ATP exam. Could be wrong though.

 

[Falconjet]

If you're in the pool and in this situation, I would give KD a call before you go and re-take it.

While it won't hurt to call her, its been beaten to death during my newhire class and on these boards several times.

You WILL absolutely, positively have to have a current FE written to start training at FedEx. It can't expire during training either.

It sux I know (I ended up taking the FE written 3 times over the years) but it is still a very small price to pay to get into this gig.

Good luck. Also please let us know what she says if you do call KD. I'd hate to be giving out bad gouge.

FJ

 

[iaflyer]

FAA requirements as to time limit...

Here is what the FAA says - of course, Fedex can require a higher standard if they want.



from PART 63—CERTIFICATION: FLIGHT CREWMEMBERS OTHER THAN PILOTS

63.35 - Knowledge requirements:
(a)-(d) - I took these out, as it just says what needs to be known..

(d) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating must have passed the written tests required by paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which the flight is taken. However, this limitation does not apply to an applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating if—
(1) The applicant—
(i) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, is employed as a flight crewmember or mechanic by a U.S. air carrier or commercial operator operating either under part 121 or as a commuter air carrier under part 135 (as defined in part 298 of this title) and is employed by such a certificate holder at the time of the flight test;
(ii) If employed as a flight crewmember, has completed initial training, and, if appropriate, transition or upgrade training; and
(iii) Meets the recurrent training requirements of the applicable part or, for mechanics, meets the recency of experience requirements of part 65; or
(2) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, the applicant participated in a flight engineer or maintenance training program of a U.S. scheduled military air transportation service and is currently participating in that program.
(e) An air carrier or commercial operator with an approved training program under part 121 of this chapter may, when authorized by the Administrator, provide as part of that program a written test that it may administer to satisfy the test required for an additional rating under paragraph (b) of this section.

 

[Falconjet]

Here is what the FAA says - of course, Fedex can require a higher standard if they want.



from PART 63—CERTIFICATION: FLIGHT CREWMEMBERS OTHER THAN PILOTS

63.35 - Knowledge requirements:
(a)-(d) - I took these out, as it just says what needs to be known..

(d) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating must have passed the written tests required by paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which the flight is taken. However, this limitation does not apply to an applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating if—
(1) The applicant—
(i) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, is employed as a flight crewmember or mechanic by a U.S. air carrier or commercial operator operating either under part 121 or as a commuter air carrier under part 135 (as defined in part 298 of this title) and is employed by such a certificate holder at the time of the flight test;
(ii) If employed as a flight crewmember, has completed initial training, and, if appropriate, transition or upgrade training; and
(iii) Meets the recurrent training requirements of the applicable part or, for mechanics, meets the recency of experience requirements of part 65; or
(2) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, the applicant participated in a flight engineer or maintenance training program of a U.S. scheduled military air transportation service and is currently participating in that program.
(e) An air carrier or commercial operator with an approved training program under part 121 of this chapter may, when authorized by the Administrator, provide as part of that program a written test that it may administer to satisfy the test required for an additional rating under paragraph (b) of this section.

No argument over the FARs.

I think that FedEx interpets the highlighted part to mean continuous employment with the same employer and that is why they don't accept the waiver, but again I'm not sure.

What I do know is that the 6 o'clock flight was the first flight off the island.

I'm pretty sure you need a current written, again please let us know if KD says differently.

FJ

 

[wms]

I'm not interested in Fedex. Sorry I asked.

 

[Purpled]

I'm not interested in Fedex. Sorry I asked.

Most of the FedEx rhetoric is in response to DiamondZ's question.

If I recall correctly, which is a long-shot at best: If you can make it to day 1 with a current FE written, then they will extend it. Short of that you'd have to retake it...but again, check with KD to be sure.

WMS-if you don't want to work at FedEx, then F-U, go work at SWA[joke from another thread]

 

[Rook]

WMS-if you don't want to work at FedEx, then F-U, go work at SWA[joke from another thread]

Nice segue Purpled :laugh:

 

[wms]

Lighten up Francis! I've got nothin' against Fedex. I'm just sorry a simple question led to such a discussion. Who would've thought something would get so blown out of proportion on FI.com.

 

[wms]

I get it. I just read the other thread. Oh brother!

 

[DiamondZ]

Small sacrifice...absolutely

No problem retaking the test.....just trying to work smarter not harder.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I wholeheartedly recommend Sheppard Air (no I don't work there). I did both my ATP and FE for a FRACTION of what it would have cost at All ATP. Studied on my own for a week (each), got a 100 and 99 respectively. Very simple. Good luck!

http://www.sheppardair.com/

 

[DiamondZ]

For what its worth, KD stated as long as the FEw is current on Day1 at FedEx, there's no need to retake the exam.

Z