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viperdriver said:
Any truth to the rumor that SWA doesn't like the FE written and FedEx doesn't like the 737 Type rating?

Viperdriver
I would say that they would not like it in that:

...if you post on a resume for SWA that you have an FE written, you are implying that you don't even know that they don't NEED an FE written, since they only fly two-pilot aircraft

...ditto for FedEx; if you advertise your 737 type rating to FedEx, they would reply with, "since we don't even fly 737s, what is your point?"
 
viperdriver said:
Any truth to the rumor that SWA doesn't like the FE written and FedEx doesn't like the 737 Type rating?

Viperdriver
I can't say anything re: Fed Ex, but SWA hired me with an FE rating. I don't think it matters.

A lot of folks got their FE writtens done (more than once to keep it "current") over the years.
 
A bud of mine got hired at FedEx w/a B-737 type.
 
I had the FE Written when I got hired at SWA 5 1/2 years ago. Just leave it off your SWA app/resume and don't bring it up. The interviewers aren't going to ask (I'm an interviewer), and even if it comes up somehow, just tell the truth, no harm no foul.


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FedEx's online app. doesn't allow you to list aircraft that you are typed in but don't have any time in. SWA online app. doesn't ask you if you have an FE rating. Seems like a moot point to me.
 
I don't think it matters at either carrier, however I would customize my resume for each. Then when you get offered the interview you will receive documents they use for verification and it will show up during the background check. The same as your driving record, training records and everything else in your background. If the question is asked on the perhire docs disclose it. If not don't worry about it. This would be considered a good thing not like an undisclosed speeding ticket.
 
Neither company cares

My experience is that both companies are strong and secure enough to not worry about you leaving once hired and thus they don't really care if you have those tickets. I had the FE written when I interviewed at SWA, and although it wasn't on my resume (no need) I'm sure that they knew about it when they did the records check. It never came up during the interview, but I was prepared to discuss why I had it if it did. I got my type and entered "the pool".

I was in the pool at SWA with my 737 type when FedEx called and I went to interview there. Again, the 737 type wasn't on my online app with them, and the subject never came up during the interview. I was prepared to discuss my position in the SWA pool if it came up in the interview also, but it never did.

After I started at FedEx and moved to Memphis I had to update my status and address with SWA, and I told them that I was working at FedEx. That was never an issue with them, in fact they offered to hold off contacting FedEx until I was offered a class date. After the first year in the pool they gave me a positive space pass to Dallas to update my records and get finger printed in order to remain in the pool, again knowing full well that I was working for FedEx. That is why I say they are a class act and not worried about pilots leaving for greener pastures. At that point I was still honestly debating with my family the merits of jumping over to SWA once I got a class date.

After more than 2 years in the pool at SWA I was offered a class date but by that time I had too much time invested at FedEx to leave. SWA offered me the chance to defer my decision and class date for 6 months to ponder the situation, still knowing full well that I worked for FedEx. I chose not to defer.

SWA is a first class company, and they know that if you want to work there you will most likely stay there regardless of who else comes calling (in today's environment, I know this wasn't necessarily the case years ago). If I could have gotten on at SWA first I would never have left, but I just couldn't wait around for over 2 years to continue my aviation career.

You never know when your backup plan in this business will become your primary plan. You owe it to yourself and your family to make yourself as competitive as you can to as many quality companies as you can. Class companies like SWA and FedEx understand that and won't hold it against you because you are trying to stack the odds in your favor. Get as many tickets as you can that will increase your chances of getting that interview.

Good luck.

FJ
 

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