Wang Chung
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avbug is the only one acting as such that I've seen in this thread.DC4boy said:What do you expect from a bunch of 12 year old wanna-be airline pilots.
flyinloki said:Heheh. This whole the thread is exactly why it costs a butt load of money for ag operators to insure themselves and why alot of insurance companies won't even insure this kind of operation. Not sayin these guys shouldn't fly or anything, just stating that the profession is more dangerous than your standard flying is. By the way I grew up on a farm![]()
Just seems to be a lot of holes in this account as far as the ag pilot being labeled as Satan. Seems to be plenty of blame to be shared, as is usually the case.
When two or more aircraft are approaching an airport for the purpose of landing, the aircraft at the lower altitude has the right-of-way
Now this sounds fishy with regard to hanging the ag pilot. Bear with me. You're saying that the ag plane crossed overhead, entered a downwind, tight base and final. During this time, an aircraft (plane1)had time to land and clear the runway, and another plane (plane2)
had time to enter the runway, apply power and get to Vr. Sounds to me that the ag plane was in the pattern for no less than 2 minutes or so, plenty of time to be seen by an aircraft holding for the runway. Sounds like (plane2) failed to clear the airspace before departure.
It was also mentioned that another aircraft was giving position reports for the ill mannered ag pilot. Well if everyone knew his position, why did (plane2) elect to initiate a takeoff. Must not have been listening to the radio, hhhmmm.
Or our IFR Monkeys, if you happen to have one of those. If Avbug hasn't been killed by a pack of feral CFIs yet, he can tell you about the IFR Monkey.Perhaps we should all take a time out and go spend some quality time with our TCAS and Trunk Monkeys.
mattpilot said:Here's a scenario for you. You are in a RJ flying to an uncontrolled airport. While on short final you notice a little yellow plane also on short final, but approaching from the other end. This is the first time you saw him while doing your own approach. You weren't aware of his presence because he didn't announce. Winds are 10 knots in your favor. What do you do?
Here's another scenario. You just started your take off roll at an uncontrolled field in you RJ. Suddenly you notice a little yellow plane coming in on final as you are about to reach Vr. Again, you weren't aware of the plane and the winds are 10 knots in your favor. What do you do?
Aircraft was spotted 3 miles (as stated in original post) from the airport. That is not the traffic pattern. So normal right of way rules apply.
When two or more aircraft are approaching an airport for the purpose of landing, the aircraft at the lower altitude has the right-of-way
prpjt said:Once cleaned up discuss with the FO how we missed seeing someone on final. Light winds and no radio do not preclude us from looking out the window.
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