Falcon 50/900 Information Needed

[2000flyer]

The short answer is:

All GV/G550's have 120 VG's. GV

Yep, there is something you'll NEVER see on a Falcon

2000Flyer

 

[bigD]

Now, now 2000flyer - I'm sure designing a wing is hard work. Getting it right the first time without using an aerodynamic crutch - or rather, 120 aerodynamic crutches - is not easy to do!

 

[G100driver]

Yep, there is something you'll NEVER see on a Falcon

2000Flyer

.... but what if you are over the North Atlantic and you loose 2 of you 3 engine driven hyd pumps and both of you gererators fail and you cannot get you APU to light .... AND THE FLIGHT ATTENDENT IS OUT OF COFFEE!!!

 

[banned username 2]

The Direct Operating Costs are from the Fall 2004 Conklin and DeDecker. The fuel cost used is $2.72 a gallon, up from $2.52 in the Spring edition. DOC's also include maintenance labor ($79 / hour), parts, engine reserves and miscellaneous flight expenses.

I think $2.72 is probably a good domestic figure.

Wow, I don't remember the last time I got fuel that cheap domestically ($2.72/gal)... We are paying over $3.25 at home and typically that or more on the road... We use contract fuel when possible, but a lot of the places we go don't offer that...

The price of fuel is rediculous, hope to see it drop in the coming months!

 

[GVFlyer]

How are you calculating the difference in size? Gross weight?

Yes, in that that is how everything else in aviation is classifed - from FAI records, to crew requirements, to certification requirements, to separation minima, but the cabin is 22% larger, the baggage area 33% larger, the fuselage is 35% longer, and the wings are 23% longer; pick one you like and go with it.

Now, now 2000flyer - I'm sure designing a wing is hard work. Getting it right the first time without using an aerodynamic crutch - or rather, 120 aerodynamic crutches - is not easy to do!

Your alternatives are to use a parasitic boundary layer control device, or to reduce Mmo and accept earlier boundary layer separation in maneuvering flight none of which is consistent with Gulfstream's design philosophy which is performance based and aimed to provide high degrees of controlability at high angles of attack and in maneuvering flight. It works - the GV has been out to M 1.07 during certification and holds the T-category altitude record by carrying 1000 kg to 55,066 feet. It also holds the time to climb records for 3000 meters, 6000 meters, 9,000 meters, 12,000 meters and 15,000 meters for payloads of both 1000 and 2000 kg as well as over 60 other records.

When Gulfstream employs the Sub-Boundary Layer Votex Generators it will be the first non-fighter jet to use this technology.

bigD you repeatedly take information that I generously provide you in response to your questions, twist it and use it against me - I'm beginning to suspect that I was married to you at one time.

GV

 

[bigD]

bigD you repeatedly take information that I generously provide you in response to your questions, twist it and use it against me - I'm beginning to suspect that I was married to you at one time.

GV

LMAO! Touche! I hope you realize it's all in good fun. In all seriousness, I've likely learned more about the Gulfstream from your posts than I could have anywhere else, and it's much appreciated.

 

[Uncle Sparky]

When Gulfstream employs the Sub-Boundary Layer Votex Generators it will be the first non-fighter jet to use this technology.



GV

Okay my aircraft experience is in the Sub-sonic range(not that a sub-sonic aircraft doesn't posess a boundary layer) but if you don't mind, explain sub-boundary VG.

 

[banned username 2]

bigD you repeatedly take information that I generously provide you in response to your questions, twist it and use it against me - I'm beginning to suspect that I was married to you at one time.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigD is a good guy, he's just "funnin' with ya"... GV, as always your posts are very articulate, informative and even sometimes entertaining!

 

[HMR]

Just taking a break from my parasitic boundary layer control device calculations and it occured to me: Uncle Sparky, you forgot to log out of the computer at Garrett earlier today. Don't worry, I resisted the urge to post a thread on BBQ sucks, PFT is great, requesting info for the Gay Pilots Assoc, etc. and just quietly logged you out.

 

[Uncle Sparky]

Just taking a break from my parasitic boundary layer control device calculations and it occured to me: Uncle Sparky, you forgot to log out of the computer at Garrett earlier today. Don't worry, I resisted the urge to post a thread on BBQ sucks, PFT is great, requesting info for the Gay Pilots Assoc, etc. and just quietly logged you out.

Geez.....that's scary! The last time I was at Garrett was two weeks ago!! My earlier post on this thread wasn't really my post. .......just assumed one of the other guys in my office was too lazy to log in himself. Well now that the Garrett computer has memorized my password, I guess I can expect posts on the "Gay Pilots Ass." site etc etc....
Probably a good reason not to use your real name on your Avatar!

 

[Lead Sled]

Just taking a break from my parasitic boundary layer control device calculations and it occured to me: Uncle Sparky, you forgot to log out of the computer at Garrett earlier today. Don't worry, I resisted the urge to post a thread on BBQ sucks, PFT is great, requesting info for the Gay Pilots Assoc, etc. and just quietly logged you out.

Uncle Sparky is gay?

 

[Uncle Sparky]

Uncle Sparky is gay?

It's days like today, trying to deal with a pregnant, hormonal wife, that make me wish I were!

 

[Brett Hull]

Uncle Sparky is gay?

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!

 

[banned username 2]

Just taking a break from my parasitic boundary layer control device calculations and it occured to me: Uncle Sparky, you forgot to log out of the computer at Garrett earlier today. Don't worry, I resisted the urge to post a thread on BBQ sucks, PFT is great, requesting info for the Gay Pilots Assoc, etc. and just quietly logged you out.

Uncle Sparky doesn't like BBQ???

 

[Uncle Sparky]

Now them are fightin' words!

 

[Uncle Sparky]

Actually, I'm a Lesbian trapped in a man's body.

 

[Lead Sled]

I'm trying to remember - wasn't this thread originally about Falcon 50 info?

 

[banned username 2]

wasn't this thread originally about Falcon 50 info?

Falcon 50??? Is that the new smoker out from Brinkmann??? Or New Braunfels???

 

[Brett Hull]

I'm trying to remember - wasn't this thread originally about Falcon 50 info?

Yea! And when you get one, please have your boss call mine and tell him how nice of an airplane it is, and that he needs to get him one and get out of those god forsaken learjets!

 

[HMR]

Geez.....that's scary! The last time I was at Garrett was two weeks ago!! My earlier post on this thread wasn't really my post. .......just assumed one of the other guys in my office was too lazy to log in himself. Well now that the Garrett computer has memorized my password, I guess I can expect posts on the "Gay Pilots Ass." site etc etc....
Probably a good reason not to use your real name on your Avatar!

Two Weeks! Don't worry, I made sure you were logged off for good.

Disclaimer: Uncle Sparky is really a BBQ lovin', A$$ Kickin', Man's man.

Now, does anyone have those performance numbers for a straight DA50?