FAA Violated staffing policies

[LJ45]

hey Transpac

I am sure the controller's salary was more than the combined salary of the flight crew, maybe even adding in the flight attendant $$. Why? because they have responsibility also! Transpac doesn't think we need controllers...Just a perfect pilot all the time.

 

[kevdog]

Just take the pilot out of the picture and non of this would happen.

 

[ReportCanoa]

And that is the end of this thread.

 

[transpac]

LEX handles less than one aircraft per hour? Is that a statistic somewhere or did you just pull it out of your arse?

Yeah, maybe I just made it up. Or, maybe I got that number from a NTSB briefing that was covered live on TV and quoted in most newspapers. You figure it out. And while you're at it, read the FAA press briefing that gives the same number and further says that if an additional controller had been on duty he/she would have been assigned approach control duties and would not have been looking out the window or doing the paper work that occupied the local/ground controller's attention.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Yeah, maybe I just made it up. Or, maybe I got that number from a NTSB briefing that was covered live on TV and quoted in most newspapers. You figure it out. And while you're at it, read the FAA press briefing that gives the same number and further says that if an additional controller had been on duty he/she would have been assigned approach control duties and would not have been looking out the window or doing the paper work that occupied the local/ground controller's attention.

According to flightaware.com LEX has already handled nearly 40 arriving aircraft today, and its not even 3pm yet. If someone from the NTSB said that they handle less than one aircraft per hour they must have been mistaken. If that were the case they wouldn't have a Control Tower at all, let alone a TRACON.

 

[ArcticFlier]

Is LEX tower an FAA one or one of those privatized thingies (if there are any anymore)?


Curious,


AF

 

[SkyBoy1981]

All primary airports with an approach control are FAA both for the Tower and TRACON.

 

[ArcticFlier]

Ah, thanks. Never been there, so I wasn't aware of how they were set up.


AF

 

[transpac]

According to flightaware.com LEX has already handled nearly 40 arriving aircraft today, and its not even 3pm yet. If someone from the NTSB said that they handle less than one aircraft per hour they must have been mistaken. If that were the case they wouldn't have a Control Tower at all, let alone a TRACON.

Okay, I'll repeat this slowly: During the mid-shift (when the tower is/was staffed with one controller) an average of less than one aircraft per hour is handled. Don't believe the numbers for midnight until 1500L were mentioned, but your numbers would work out to less than three arrivals per hour.

 

[imacdog]

However, the actual departure/hr rate at 6am is obviously much higher than during the middle of the night.

 

[ReportCanoa]

There were 13 aircraft movements between 5:30 and 6:30 that morning, including the accident flight.

 

[transpac]

There were 13 aircraft movements between 5:30 and 6:30 that morning, including the accident flight.

Not doubting you, but I'd like to see the reference.

Here's an exerpt from today's Washington Post:

"The midnight shift is usually the slowest one at the airport, which averages fewer than eight takeoffs and departures daily between midnight and 6 a.m., according to the FAA."

 

[imacdog]

Not doubting you, but I'd like to see the reference.

Here's an exerpt from today's Washington Post:

"The midnight shift is usually the slowest one at the airport, which averages fewer than eight takeoffs and departures daily between midnight and 6 a.m., according to the FAA."

And when do you think most of those movements occur?

 

[transpac]

And when do you think most of those movements occur?

Dunno. Just did a fast check and I can only find three scheduled flights that depart before 0700 on a Sunday. Guess I could be overlooking something.

 

[imacdog]

Did you notice that all three have the same departure time?

 

[transpac]

Did you notice that all three have the same departure time?

Not really. Not going to happen anyway on a single runway airport.

 

[ArcticFlier]

Really? no kidding. doesn't mean they don't all have the same scheduled departure time.


AF

 

[100-1/2]

I heard from local POI, tower controler was also running approach upstairs. Lexington for some time has controlled arrival gates for SDF SE arrivals and CVG LOW South arrivals. Could have been fairly busy at 6am on a Sunday Morning.

100-1/2