F-14 Question

[Darth Jaded]

Hello all,

I have been a longtime lurker and I finally have something to ask.
On another board, a question was raised about the time it takes for an F-14's wings to sweep. It was something I 've wondered about for some reason. The question wasn't answered so I thought I'd pose that here:

How long does it take for an F-14's wings to sweep?

Thanks,

D.J.

 

[Bustamove]

It varies depending on load (g's), but maximum sweep rate is 15 deg/sec. So...going from 20deg to 68deg would be 3.2 seconds at the maximum rate ((68-20)/15).

Where in the world did that question come from? Bar bet?

 

[Rush Limbaugh]

Coincidentally, 3.2 seconds is also about how long it takes a Tomcat to lose a BFM engagement.

 

[Bustamove]

...which is .2 seconds longer than it takes a viper to knock it off for gas.

check switches, fights on...

 

[CCDiscoB]

People often confuse the F-14 to the F-15, twin tails and all. I couldn’t tell you how many people ask me at air shows if my plane is an F-14. Patmack18, you're referring to the F-15. Getting near an F-14 unfortunately is all too easy.

 

[Rush Limbaugh]

"...which is .2 seconds longer than it takes a viper to knock it off for gas."

Pretty good comeback bro, I applaud your efforts.

"Lose? Ya maybe if you can get within 100 miles of it without getting shot down."

By who? Maybe the Navy has a super secret Stealth Hornet designated the F/A-118 that they put well in front of the Tomcat cap. Sounds like a pretty good tactic to me. Lets see, AWACS tells you about a Tomcat cap so you get your fangs out and go supersonic so just like Maverick, so you can get there in 30 seconds. Just as you start getting contacts, BAMMM!!!! An F/A-118 has just hit you with their new super secret smokeless AMRAAM that is powered by the same system found in the flying saucer crash at Roswell. Or maybe the Navy put in an acquisition order for the F-22 for the same tactic but demanded that it be re-designated the F/A-22. That change is about as gay as 2 men having "relations" (if you know what I mean) so the Navy has to be involved in some way, shape or form. Or maybe you are reffering to that SA-2 looking thing they strap on the bottom of the Tomcat. I think the first 2 are pretty good guesses at what you meant. If you meant the last one, you must live in a fantasy world. At any rate, times must be a changin'. I had no idea they were teaching fighter tactics to OCS candidates.

 

[Femur]

For the life of me, I never get tired of hearing pointy-nosed guys going at it. Although half the time I don't have the first clue as to what your talking about - it's still amusing.
PatMack - best of luck in OCS, but take Rush's advice: don't get in on the conversation unless you know what you are talking about. I think the other military flyers will agree with this (at least the Navy types): when you're going through flight school, don't make a point of telling your instructors things like, "I'm going to be a F/A-18 guy". The correct answer to, "So, ENS Mack, what are you hoping to fly?", is a very humble, "Whatever they'll let me, sir" or the always popular, "Uhhh, what did you fly, sir?"
Call it sucking up if you want to, but I saw more than one overly cocky SNA/SNFO get the proverbial boot upside his head for being a jackass.
No aggression meant here PatMack, best of luck to you.

 

[46Driver]

Whenever y'all figure out who shot who down, give us a call and we'll pick up the loser.

 

[bssthound]

Femur said:

"For the life of me, I never get tired of
hearing pointy-nosed guys going at it."

I gotta agree. I got a great laugh, myself. That stuff occupies a treasured but diminishing spot in my memory. Thanks for the chuckle, guys.

 

[Batman]

Ignorant question...

"Lose? Ya maybe if you can get within 100 miles of it without getting shot down."

Was Rush referring to the Phoenix missile that is flown exclusively on the F-14? If so, what are the chances that a Tomcat could engage a Viper 100 miles out with a Phoenix and be successful?

If anyone has any factual info on the Phoenix, I would be interested in hearing if the missile has any use in today's modern combat arena.

Future Tanker Toad

 

[Rush Limbaugh]

Batman,

Yes I was referring to the Phoenix. Refer to CCDiscoB's post again to answer your question.

"Getting near an F-14 unfortunately is all too easy."

 

[navhnt]

That change is about as gay as 2 men having "relations" (if you know what I mean) so the Navy has to be involved in some way, shape or form.



Hey Rush,
I've seen several of your posts and you seem to have a real problem with Navy guys. What gives? OBTW, the original post referred to a BFM engagement. So by definition both aircraft have survived the merge. In that case I wouldn't want to be in the Tomcat or the Eagle! Can't we all just get along.

NAVHNT

 

[Kaman]

TOUCHE' 46Driver!!!!

Most of the time the stiff-wingers on the carrier barely acknowledged we existed unless we hoisted there wet asses out of the drink! Seriously, we had a great relationship with the Hornet drivers, because they were our "Sandies" on CSAR missions and did a lot of flying with them at-sea, Fallon, etc...

regards,

ex-Navy rotorhead

"Jets are for Kids" and the other popular helo retort..."to fly is heavenly, but to hover is divine"

 

[Rush Limbaugh]

I've seen several of your posts and you seem to have a real problem with Navy guys

The real problem with internet message boards is you don't see the spirit in the words. I have absolutely no problem with the Navy but I do have a problem being serious for more than a couple minutes at a time. My first post in this thread was intended as a jab at a fighter pilot bro because as you know, that's what fighter pilots do. The one you quoted was joke. Most of my posts are not serious in nature and that will probably never change.

I completely agree, I wouldn't want to be in a Tomcat or an Eagle in a turning fight. Give me a Hornet as a foe and we'll make a fight out of it, of course that's considering I get out of this hell I'm currently stuck in and into a real airplane.

 

[jarhead_av8r]

i love to throw a few jabs at the AF or Navy when the opportunity arises but being in the Corps, i'd be lucky to just to take-off due to lack of funding, so i'll just sit back and keep my nugget mouth shut ....

semper fidelis

 

[Bustamove]

Jeez, you step away for the weekend and come back to a full board.

OK, lawn darts can turn, Phoeny Bombs (Phoenix) can burn, but I have to admit the best comment ever came from a helo shipmate during a CSAR brief on my first cruise: "You jet boys talk a big game but you all look the same coming up the rope. Wet, cold and scared."

I'm not going to go too far out on a limb in comparing numbers on a 30+ year old airframe with what's coming off the line now, but the Turkey is a pretty good old bird and if you want to compare numbers on sheer size and power for a fighter - from the AWG-9 in the nose to the blower in the back, it's a pretty impressive piece of machinery. But then so are a lot of others if you're into JP and jet noise. The newer ones just have better toys onboard.

Fun thread that has nothing to do with it's title. Thanks for the memories.

 

[Femur]

I see Obi-Wan has taught you well....
Seriously though, remember that no matter what you may end up flying - you ended up FLYING. Good luck at OCS and as a SNA.