ExpressJet interview currency and king air time??

[nludy]

I have an inteview with XJT in a couple weeks.. I dont think Im going to meet the 60 hours in 6 months thing.. Even though it doesnt say anywhere you need that, but the gouges say they are sending people home for it. I also flew a king air b200. I logged about 800 hours in that. Half flying for the left or right seat (PIC) The other half I logged as dual recieved(the captain was a MEI). I called my FSDO they said that is legal. What should I do? I thing they might just send me home from the interview.

 

[pkjohnsonm]

B200 Time

You need to know all the systems, emergency procedures, and everything you possibly can about the B200. Many people log questionable multitime and XJET does not like that AT ALL!!! Their argument is that if you log PIC in the a/c you should know everything about it. If it was logged part 91, I wouldn't worry about it. If it was logged 135 be ready to defend yourself.

 

[Meiguy]

You know I'm not to sure how they would handle that much time in a KingAir Part 91. I would hope that they would understand that it's great experience and not say anything at all. You could probably talk your way through it if you emphasize you did more left seat time than the "dual received time". Me and a couple other people in my interview class had King Air time but all had 135 checkrides in them. Make sure you know everything about the plane regardless of which part you flew under. All limitation and systems real well. I also think as long as nothing was logged SIC you should be ok too. Good luck

 

[SkyBoy1981]

From reading past interview experiences, if you've been logging any PIC time in a high performance turbine airplane they want to see that you have been through a formal training program for it (i.e. FlightSafety or Simuflite). As far as logging dual received, they usually see that as a way of trying to beat the system in order to log PIC time, so they don't really like that either. There are plenty of regionals out there that would probably count your time with no questions, but I doubt ExpressJet is one of them. It can't hurt to try though...after all, you have nothing to lose by going to an interview.

 

[contractpilot]

I also have my interview upcoming in Oct. I was told by a friend who just finished IOE that all time SIC or flight time that "does not look right should be able to be explained" According to my friend someone had logged BE-200 time as SIC. Mind you it was only a few hours and they dragged this guys through the coals. Hope it works out for you.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Actually, to be honest, there is probably a 99% chance that if you go in there claiming a few hundred hours of "dual received" in a King Air, you will be sent home early. Basically, you're using someone else's instructor rating as a way of beating the system to log PIC time. What sort of message does that send to a prospective employer? I know its tought to get multi time anymore, especially with insurance companies running the world, but my recommendation is that if you have at least 100 hours in twin pistons, don't even include the King Air time on your application. Its probably going to hurt you more than it will help you.

 

[pkjohnsonm]

I have an interview in October and I have 10hrs logged in a KingAir 100. It was all Part 91 and I logged it as dual received with the MEI's endorsement for each leg. I also have 13hrs of ground instruction on systems and emergency procedures that are signed off by the same MEI. Does anybody think that will keep them off my back. I plan on knowing systems and emergency procedures.

 

[Smoked Toilet]

Not to blow your candle out, but I think you could have had 10 hours in the space shuttle and still be fine. 10 hours isn't going to cause trouble.

 

[Henrsd28]

I know expressjet requires 60 hours in the last six months and 37.5 of actual instrument. Do they require any minium Multiengine hours in the last six months also?

 

[SMOE]

I know expressjet requires 60 hours in the last six months and 37.5 of actual instrument. Do they require any minium Multiengine hours in the last six months also?

As of 29 Oct it was 20 hours of actual. I wasn't aware of any minimum required multi for last six months but I got the impression they want to see consistancy in your logbook more than anything else. i.e. there should be a reasonable mix of multi, actual instrument, and approaches logged over the previous 6-12 months. There was one guy in the interview sent home because there was a long gap in flying history between his single and multi. (going off of hearsay, I had already finished the interview by then)

 

[pkjohnsonm]

Not to blow your candle out, but I think you could have had 10 hours in the space shuttle and still be fine. 10 hours isn't going to cause trouble.

Since it is such a minimal amount of time I would hate to be sent home over that. If I am not going to get this job, I don't want it to be because of some shady multitime. I guess they are just trying to weed out the logbook padders? I am going to put it on my timegrid, I don't want to look like I am trying to hide it. I would appreciate anyone"s thoughts. Thanks

 

[BRA]

Kinda sounds like you need that 10 hours of kingair time to add up to 100 multi. It sounds like you have it logged the right way, it sounds like good training to me. Probably even more valuable then 10 hours of just sitting during xc's in a piston twin. I would be ready to tell them about it though. If they send you home, just apply to other companies. Their loss. 10 hours is just too much of a drop in the bucket.

 

[pkjohnsonm]

Kinda sounds like you need that 10 hours of kingair time to add up to 100 multi. It sounds like you have it logged the right way, it sounds like good training to me. Probably even more valuable then 10 hours of just sitting during xc's in a piston twin. I would be ready to tell them about it though. If they send you home, just apply to other companies. Their loss. 10 hours is just too much of a drop in the bucket.

Without it I would be at about 130 PIC Multi, but I just don't want to take the risk of not putting on the time grid. It is clear as day in my logbook, so I know they will see it. I don't want to give them a reason to send me home before they start the actual interviewing.

 

[nludy]

I talked to someone in recruiting and they said the King Air time is ok as long as you log it as dual recieved and flying time as PIC. Logging king air time is just like logging seneca time. You dont need a type rating. So if you are flying you can log it. Just know the systems. Logging it as dual time is just a way to put the experience in your logbook somehow. Not to "cheat"

 

[Sphrynxlla]

I agree, i think it is rediculous to say that Dual Recieved is cheating the system. It is a completely valid way of logging time....just like all of your other flight training. It is multi engine time just like if you were training for your multi rating.

 

[pkjohnsonm]

I talked to someone in recruiting and they said the King Air time is ok as long as you log it as dual recieved and flying time as PIC. Logging king air time is just like logging seneca time. You dont need a type rating. So if you are flying you can log it. Just know the systems. Logging it as dual time is just a way to put the experience in your logbook somehow. Not to "cheat"

Thanks for the help. I also think it is a legitimate way to log it. Its not like I have hundreds "dual received" hours logged.