Express Jet to lose 69 a/c by 2007

[maru657]

Interesting problem, I always thought the guys flying for the regionals should have formed strong independant unions. Especially since many of these were people without the prerequisite degrees in advanced basket weaving and consequently no old squadron buddies in the chief pilot's office to help them bypass the mandatory B.S. advanced by the human remains dept.
The guys at Eagle probably had the last best chance. With strength in numbers they could have told the Allied boys no to any limits on size or numbers of jets and any seniority agreement would be via strict date of hire.
As I recall, the last time that was effected was by the ALPA, MEC of the old Frontier Airlines who insisted that there be only one seniority list, date of hire. Of course nowdays, If I were one of the people relagated to the "red headed stepchild" position at a regional, I would at least eagerly await the opportunity to cross a picket line and even things up that way. Life might be tough for awhile but look at those senior guys at Continental who crossed.
Or as a friend said "if the systems rigged, don't be the sucker caught playing fair". The systems been broken for a long time and racing for the bottom. Might as well help it along and once it reaches bottom maybe an effort to create a fair system can be started.

 

[densoo]

Or as a friend said "if the systems rigged, don't be the sucker caught playing fair".... Might as well help it along and once it reaches bottom maybe an effort to create a fair system can be started.

Or, heck, while you're at it, you might as well put people in concentration camps since everyone else is doing it otherwise it might make you look like a sucker. Don't want to be caught having any moral code when no one else does. Very inconvenient to career progession. Help corruption along so that once you're reached the bottom maybe you can make it all right--then, but not before.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

I fly for Expressjet. I'm not worried, in fact I feel bad for the CAL pilots. They have to deal with Mesa people now. Good luck, it was fun while it lasted.

Agreed. CAL is making a huge mistake.

 

[superrav]

And I am one. I think that flow-throughs are for the idiot who couldn't get the job on his own. The village idiot could squeeze through the cracks (not that they didn't anyway) beacause the company was obligated to hire him. I know what you are going to say, but I never liked the flow through even when I was on the other side. I don't see how someone, just because they worked for the express carrier, would be better fit to fly for the mainline carrier. Corporate culture?? I don't think so. I know a number of tool bags that don't ever deserve to be flying for a mainline anything. On the flip side I also know a bunch of others who are much better than I am that are currently stuck at their regional job. Get over the flow through and get the job on your own. (that is once your buddy helps you with the inital interview)

And how is what they are doing now better then the flow through?? What i mean is, im just hearing to many stories of my uncles a check airman..blah blah..im all for using what you have..(network), but your statment doesnt make sense...There are many qualified guys at Express that have sat in the left seat for years..start hiring them..

 

[maru657]

Or, heck, while you're at it, you might as well put people in concentration camps since everyone else is doing it otherwise it might make you look like a sucker. Don't want to be caught having any moral code when no one else does. Very inconvenient to career progession. Help corruption along so that once you're reached the bottom maybe you can make it all right--then, but not before.

Sometimes a moral code is someone else's excuse to walk all over you. Do you think the AA guys believe they can count on the unconditional support of the Reno guys or the TWA people. A national standard of fairness would be nice but in the meantime let chaos rule.