Expat jobs fair

[WYOMINGPILOT]

I hope something can come from it. I am a business aviation guy, 135 as well. No 121. Will be curious to see how I am taken.

Don't expect the China job fair to produce big numbers of jobs unless you meet the minimum qualifications. The recruiters will attempt to recruit as many pilots as they can as they are paid for recruiting. The problem will be the actual airlines are straddled by the CAAC the Chinese FAA equivalent who will not allow NTR guys to upgrade. The demand for FOs in China is almost non-existent as there is a cheap and endless supply of FOs. They are now producing cadet pilots off the street to 737 NG Captain in 4 years in China and this cycle will continue as long as the demand exists. The 500 hr. PIC rule in type is strictly monitored by the CAAC. If they hire you as an FO there are other rules which require 2 years in type minimum and a certain number of takeoffs and landings. The salary an Ex-Pat FO would require negate the benefit of hiring them. There are a few 747 Operators who have hired FOs with widebody FO time. There are now several business jet opeartors who are seeking pilots for those operations. Always a good idea to attend a job fair just go with an open mind and don't be surprised if there are not very many actual qualified pilots hired. I have friends at AMR with 23 years senority and 12,000 hours on 757/767 but no PIC in Boeings who are not able to get a job in China. Best of Luck to all.

 

[sniper]

I hope something can come from it. I am a business aviation guy, 135 as well. No 121. Will be curious to see how I am taken.

Don't expect the China job fair to produce big numbers of jobs unless you meet the minimum qualifications. The recruiters will attempt to recruit as many pilots as they can as they are paid for recruiting. The problem will be the actual airlines are straddled by the CAAC the Chinese FAA equivalent who will not allow NTR guys to upgrade. The demand for FOs in China is almost non-existent as there is a cheap and endless supply of FOs. They are now producing cadet pilots off the street to 737 NG Captain in 4 years in China and this cycle will continue as long as the demand exists. The 500 hr. PIC rule in type is strictly monitored by the CAAC. If they hire you as an FO there are other rules which require 2 years in type minimum and a certain number of takeoffs and landings. The salary an Ex-Pat FO would require negate the benefit of hiring them. There are a few 747 Operators who have hired FOs with widebody FO time. There are now several business jet opeartors who are seeking pilots for those operations. Always a good idea to attend a job fair just go with an open mind and don't be surprised if there are not very many actual qualified pilots hired. I have friends at AMR with 23 years senority and 12,000 hours on 757/767 but no PIC in Boeings who are not able to get a job in China. Best of Luck to all.

China needs to pay alot more and better than the 6-2 off etc in order to attract me to attend.

Quality of life is here in the US not China

 

[WYOMINGPILOT]

China needs to pay alot more and better than the 6-2 off etc in order to attract me to attend.

Quality of life is here in the US not China[/QUOTE]

The 6-2 contracts are the worst of the bunch. I know of one carrier now with 30 days on and 30 days off and another A-320 contract with 4 months on and 8 months off. 6 week 16 days are common and a few have a 39/21 day contract. Pay is now approaching 20K per month for narrow body captains. If you want to work twice as hard and get half the time off then the US is a good option.

 

[HalinTexas]

Beats unemployment.

I have friends in China making almost $16k/mo, before the bonuses. I left that job to come back to the US, where the "quality of life" is, and fly B757s. I was furloughed less than 6 months after I started.

 

[atpcliff]

I have a friend flying in china. He is a US citizen, but likes living in china better. For him, the quality of life is in china.
Cliff
CVG

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[Dumb Pilot]

Well, I'm not in China so it is a little different but I'm pretty content with my current term and the fact that I have good commuting conditions, the good thing is that the lack of qualified crews will create more opportunities, better commuting conditions, more western bases, more money!

 

[jonjuan]

I have a friend flying in china. He is a US citizen, but likes living in china better. For him, the quality of life is in china.
Cliff
CVG

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Maybe he has the brown fever.

 

[Varmint]

Maybe he has the brown fever.

LOL you mean yellow fever?

 

[Vspeeds]

I have a friend flying in china. He is a US citizen, but likes living in china better. For him, the quality of life is in china.
Cliff
CVG

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Just curious have you ever been to China or does your friend tell you about what his QOL is in China?!

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Just curious have you ever been to China or does your friend tell you about what his QOL is in China?!

The major cities like Shanghai and Beijing have a pretty cosmopolitan life style and they have a lot of western style apartments and places to go, shop, eat and the likes, but they definitely come with western style prices, it is expensive.

LOL you mean yellow fever?

It is an easy illness to get.

 

[avratdwc]

***************K has been sent. Lets see what BAA has to say!!!

 

[IDpilot]

Any word on how the Miami job fair turned out?

 

[Erlanger]

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Made...nced-pilots-us/story?id=15783879#.T0gThIft9XI

 

[TraneOfThought]

It was great only thing was I didn't really see too many expat pilots talking granted I couldn't stay long but the way it was set up it seemed that based on your flight experience there was an airline for you. 145/190 time Tianjin, heavy bus time Hainan, West Air, Air China. The only "odd thing" was some of these airlines who wanted heavy bus PIC were looking for pilots I'm not sure where are you going to find those pilots here because if you're heavies as a captain why would you leave? All in all it was a great experience

 

[macdu]

Some senior AA guys I was told are sniffing around the Asia area. I received my LOA so I'm headed back.