Exceeding 250kts below 10000

[pilot370]

Can a controller tell you to delete the 250kt limit below 10000 feet? For example: go fast to beat in a thunder storm approaching the airport? And if you do should a NASA form be filled out anyway?
I heard this is in testing phase in the Houston area.

Thanks

 

[bigD]

Check out this thread

 

[pilot370]

Doh!!
Next time I'll use that fancy searchin thang dang nabbit!
Thanks

 

[Cliff]

The only reg-so to speak- a controller can make you deviate from is cloud clearance limits in class B airspace ie. less then 2 mile horz etc.... They can say go faster but the limit is 250 below 10k...

 

[learjetguy]

speed your descretion

Not sure if it is "legal" but I know of pilots(not me) that have asked the controller "can we keep the speed up below ten?" and the controllers usually respond "speed your descretion". The implication of course is that you intend to exceed the 250 limit.

Learguy

 

[avbug]

The implication is NOT that you intend to, nor may you, exceed the 250 knot limit. The controller does not have authority to waive that restriction. When advised speed your discretion, you are authorized speed at your discretion up to 250 knots. That is all that is implied; no more.

Why would one push the speed to "beat a thunderstorm." That sounds blatently stupid, to me. Either hold, or divert. Don't push thunderstorms, or try to squeak in around one. Simply put, that's idiotic.

 

[Eagleflip]

And climbing out at 100 fpm in a heavy tanker is not idiotic?


Sorry Bug...couldn't resist.

 

[pilotyip]

Houston?

Is not there a program at IAH where they are testing out hihger speeds in Class B airspace and the controller can ask for 300 KTS. Doesn't everyone go 255 or 260 some times?

 

[avbug]

Yes, that program is in place. I may be mistaken, but I believe that currently it's the only such test program in the continental US. (How long do they need to test it??).

Doesn't everyone go 255 or 260 some times

I would never knowingly violate a regulation .

And climbing out at 100 fpm in a heavy tanker is not idiotic?

It's okay, as long as you're getting paid for it .

 

[learjetguy]

Idiotic?

Av, maybe I should elaborate just a little. The situations I was refering to were that of air ambulance pilots trying to get critical patients back to the U.S. ASAP. These particular pilots would exceed 250 because they had a doctor on board saying "go go go!!". It was never about racing thunderstorms.

Learguy