Ever have words with somebody on Unicom?

[siucavflight]

3CK in the chicago area. I was turning a left crosswind for runway 26. And I hear somebody call out my tail number and say STOP CLIMBING NOW. I level off, and then the guy says he is on the ground and sees traffic just about over the top. I look up and here comes a V35 about thirty feet over head, I push down hard, get in line behind the guy. I land after him, he never called on the radio remember. I exit the runway to taxi back, I was angry but had a student with me so I decided that I would let it go, using it as a lesson for my student about using vigilance at an uncontrolled field. As I am taxing back, I see this guy come running across the field towards my airplane, it is the pilot from the V35. I am not sure what he is going to do so I shut it down incase he gets near my prop. I open the door and the guy is livid with me about not announcing my position, and I almost hit him.


So I inform him that I was announcing the whole time, talking to everyone in the area except him. Now the guy is getting angrier swering. I ask him what freq he was on. 3CK changed a few years back. He tells me he is on 122.70. I politely tell him that CTAF is now 123.05. He asks to see my maps, I show him and he turns red and says get this, "I havent bought maps since the mid 90's I didnt think it was important". HA. Then I also asked him why he would enter the pattern in a left crosswind instead on a 45 to downwind. "That is the way you are supposed to do it son, I have been flying since before you were born." HAHA

Fine, what did my student get out of this? In our debrief he lets me know that he plans on never flying into an uncontrolled field ever. I explain to him that it is "safe" just be on your tows at all times.

 

[T-Gates]

Not on unicom, but I did have a road-rage like confontation at a small uncontrolled field one day. We cancelled IFR and landed visually at a non-towered airport at an airport just North of CLT that had one runway. On the way in we made position reports, and talked to the FBO on unicom. No other traffic was talking on the frequency. We rolled out to the end and as I made a 180 to back taxi to the ramp there is a Seneca on short final. It's daytime, all my lights are on and I am in a 26,000 pound turboprop, I have nowhere to go but the grass. As I am about to swerve off the runway, I hear this "Whoops"..... as my FO is yelling onto CTAF for him to to go around. He goes around, but not the way one should, but by overflying our airplane by a mere 50 feet straight over the runway. We taxi in and I am fuming. After we shut down I stood there and wait for the guy to taxi into the FBO. When he arrived I walked over and gave him an earful about how absolutely stupid he is. He proceeds to tell me that I took too long on the runway and that he was low on fuel and really needed to land. Like it was MY problem.

I hate stupid people.....

 

[FracCapt]

He proceeds to tell me that I took too long on the runway and that he was low on fuel and really needed to land. Like it was MY problem.

I hate stupid people.....

In his defense....he was probably trying to figure out why in the hell somebody put a metal box that big on the runway...and how hard the wind must have been blowing to move it..

 

[minitour]

I hate stupid people.....

that's basically it right there...

No one wants to fly with a dumb **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**...or around a dumb **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**

-mini

 

[T-Gates]

In his defense....he was probably trying to figure out why in the hell somebody put a metal box that big on the runway...and how hard the wind must have been blowing to move it..

LMAO! That just made my day, thanks....

 

[DX Rick]

3CK in the chicago area. QUOTE]

That whole area from Lake In the Hills, Dekalb, DuPage, Schaumburg up to Palwaukee is pure heII on a nice summer day. It's like dodging fat girls in the ice cream parlor.

 

[LAXSaabdude]

Words? Well, kinda....

About 10 years ago, I was doing touch and goes with a student at an uncontrolled airport near our home airport. It was not terribly busy, maybe one other Cessna in the pattern, and a couple of Marchettis giving rides or demos or something. I was puzzled that I could not hear any radio transmissions the entire time. I checked the volume, jack plugs, etc, but could find no reason it was not working. As it was not too busy, it did not concern me terribly, and we continued the lesson a little longer.

After a few touch and goes, we were on short final, probably less than 200' AGL, when suddenly, one of the Marchettis went zooming right underneath us. My student was obviously shocked, and exclaimed, "That FU-KING AS-HOLE!!" He zoomed off, and we did one more touch and go. As we climbed out, the Marchetti had returned an formed up close to our left (of course, none of this was pre-arranged, as per FARs). Shortly after that, we decided to get out of there and returned to our home airport.

When I got there, the phone was ringing. It was the pilot of the Marchetti telling me that he didn't appreciate that kind of language on the radio. Apparently the whole time we had a stuck mike. I told him I didn't really appreciate having an airplane fly UNDERNEATH me when I was on short final! He said he did it to let me know that I had a stuck mike. I asked him when it became his job to INTERCEPT aircraft at uncontrolled airports for having problematic radios. After that, I don't remember much of what I said, I was so furious at this arrogant, self-righteous bastard, it's probably just as well.

For some reason, I never did report this idiot to the FAA, either, although if there was someone who deserved it, it was this guy.

LAXSaabdude.

 

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3CK in the chicago area. QUOTE]

That whole area from Lake In the Hills, Dekalb, DuPage, Schaumburg up to Palwaukee is pure heII on a nice summer day. It's like dodging fat girls in the ice cream parlor.

Hahahaha...that's a good one! Almost as good as dodging fibs on a summer drive to Door County!

 

[qmaster3]

Originally Posted by pilot_guy


"It ain't the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."


My Great Dane begs to differ...Sir

 

[Corona]

I b!tched a guy out on UNICOM the other night. No nav lights on in a twin cessna at night, no beacon, no landing lights. I was doing tight turns over the field at 5,000 feet and never saw the plane on final for the ILS runway, nor did I see it circle, land, roll out or taxi to the ramp! In fact I had to querry the guy to see if he had landed.

I can't count the times I've yelled at some FI on the radio to turn on their lights at night. It's hard enough to see those little beacons at night, much less the navs, especially over congested areas. All airplanes should be required to have/use strobes.

When I was a new CFI, I always tried to be friendly to local idiots; giving them friendly advice, ie "traffic is left pattern here, not right pattern", or "traffic is using 35; please do not land 17 straight-in", or " Rwy 27 is closed for repaving; there's 24-inch rebar sticking up from the asphalt", or " your gear is up, go around please".

That friendliness lasted about 6 months. Then I'd just chew 'em out. Real bad example for the students, but what can you do?

SloDoDriver: "Aerogant"... I love it! You've given me a fun new word!

C

 

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I can't count the times I've yelled at some FI on the radio to turn on their lights at night. It's hard enough to see those little beacons at night, much less the navs, especially over congested areas. All airplanes should be required to have/use strobes...

I burn my two wing mounted taxi lights continiously, day or night along with nav, strobe and beacon. When I'm within ten miles radius of a non-towered airport, I burn the wing mounted landing lights...which are life limited. I also turn them on at a towered airport, when I have been cleared to land...for me it's a neumonic that I have been cleared to land (one of the few things Mesaba taught me in my short time there )

Yea...I hear ya, announce well and often on CTAF...monitor CTAF way before the aim recomends it, burn every light in the house when it makes sense. I even burn the Curtesy lights when I am on any airport surface at night while taxiing, during night take off and landing and when I have the landing lights on at night while in the air. I can't see under the nose of the plane when descending for the field, so I figure those curtesy lights are one more level of protection. In case you don't know, on the C208 they are under the wings and shine on the fuselage a little, but are pointed straight down...every little bit helps.

 

[DX Rick]

Hahahaha...that's a good one! Almost as good as dodging fibs on a summer drive to Door County!

I like when I'm pulling into Lake Geneva, there is a house right off of 42 I believe. This man has a sign infront of his house that says "Go Back To IllinoiS, You $uck!"

 

[Corona]

I burn my two wing mounted taxi lights continiously, day or night along with nav, strobe and beacon. When I'm within ten miles radius of a non-towered airport, I burn the wing mounted landing lights...which are life limited. I also turn them on at a towered airport, when I have been cleared to land...for me it's a neumonic that I have been cleared to land (one of the few things Mesaba taught me in my short time there )

Yea...I hear ya, announce well and often on CTAF...monitor CTAF way before the aim recomends it, burn every light in the house when it makes sense. I even burn the Curtesy lights when I am on any airport surface at night while taxiing, during night take off and landing and when I have the landing lights on at night while in the air. I can't see under the nose of the plane when descending for the field, so I figure those curtesy lights are one more level of protection. In case you don't know, on the C208 they are under the wings and shine on the fuselage a little, but are pointed straight down...every little bit helps.

Yep, imagine that: Following AIM recommendations actually helps w/safety! Now, if only we can get the idiots up there to read it...(preferably not while they're flying, of course).

The Empire guys around here ALWAYS burn their lights near the airport in their 208s. That bird has some serious bulbs on it; you can see them for miles away.

I once saved my -and my student's- fannies when descending in a 152 because of my insistence on using the landing light per the AIM. He was in a camoflage Cub. Didn't see him until he took up about 1/10th of the windshield, coming absolutely head-on, and then saw him only because he turned first. The scenery behind him was same color as his plane. My guess is he saw the landing light first.

CTAF: I once had some FI ask why I was announcing I was 18NM out for landing @ an uncontrolled field; guess he wanted to know why I was calling so far out. He got pretty quiet when I said I'd be downwind in four minutes. Guess he didn't know his turbine acft types very well. T-props are fun!

C

 

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Yep, imagine that: Following AIM recommendations actually helps w/safety! Now, if only we can get the idiots up there to read it...(preferably not while they're flying, of course).

CTAF: I once had some FI ask why I was announcing I was 18NM out for landing @ an uncontrolled field; guess he wanted to know why I was calling so far out. He got pretty quiet when I said I'd be downwind in four minutes. Guess he didn't know his turbine acft types very well. T-props are fun!

C

Maybe announcing "minutes" instead of "miles" will help un confuse the locals...at least until you are actually entering the pattern. When I get lucky in the van and have a tailwind and get to go "turbine" fast, I will do the first announcement or two in minutes.

You have to keep in mind that one airport I go to has a notam that the main runway is closed in wintry conditions without a PPR from county. Nothing like descending out of 12,000 feet all fat, dumb and happy about being on top of icing conditions for the last two hours ...only to find out that county needs 20 more minutes to get the snow off the runway.

 

[DX Rick]

Maybe announcing "minutes" instead of "miles" will help un confuse the locals...at least until you are actually entering the pattern. QUOTE]

eh...I think mileage would work out better. You have to think, and act as if the other pilot out there isn't the brightest one in the air. Minutes might confuse him, he might not know the typical cruise for your a/c and not able to compute the time into miles.
If he has an idea how far out he, and you are (assuming you both are heading inbound to the same place) it's easier to paint a general location for him/her of where you are, i.e. 10 miles NE of PWK. Especially if he has a DME, or GPS to assist him.