Evacuation Crewmember

[fokkerjet]

Aviation International News reports that the G550 will now require an "Evacuation Crewmember" with passenger loads of 10 or more....................in other words, someone to push

www.ainonline.com/weeklynews/AIN_weeklynews.html#story3

 

[2000flyer]

Thats an interesting thing to call a Flight Attendant. In an article I read on the same subject, it mentioned the requirement for an FA when 10 or passengers are on board.

2000Flyer

 

[fokkerjet]

Where's GVflyer on this?

Does it have to be a flight attendant? The article justs says evacuation crewmember (I don't know what the AFM requirements state)...........could that still be a pilot? If not, that now requires the G550 to operate with 3 crewmembers, unless you're going to limit your passenger load to 9 paxs, while everyone else can go to 19.

Picture Mr. Blowhard leaving home base with eight of his friends and no "evacuation crewmember" on board, and on the next leg wanting to add another pax and you have to tell him no

 

[vossdr1]

Does the "evacuation crewmember" clean the lav?

 

[2000flyer]

The article doesn't mention anything about a flight attendant, only an "trained crewmember". However, rather than have a third pilot in back, why not make it a flight attendant?

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G550 To Require Evacuation Crewmember
Gulfstream, in what is apparently the resolution of a dispute with FAA concerning its traditional four elliptical window emergency exits, will require “an evacuation crewmember” on all G550 flights carrying 10 or more passengers. The company describes the decision as an “equivalent safety finding” granted by the FAA before issuance of the primary type certificate, in compliance with the latest regulatory amendments.” Gulfstream had anticipated certification of the G550 with the same four-window emergency exit system as the G500 from which the new airplane is derived. The FAA, however, asked Gulfstream to redesign the G550’s emergency exit system to include a Type III exit, 36 inches high by 20 inches wide. The elliptical window exit is 19 inches high by 26 inches wide. The proposed operating manual is specific in the training required of the evacuation crewmember, saying that he or she must be “trained in the optimum method of evacuating exits and procedures for directing passenger flow to prevent someone who does not fit through an elliptical window from blocking it so that others cannot use it.” Gulfstream says this solution “was supported by feedback from our customers as well as training organizations that appreciate the effectiveness of the Gulfstream design.”
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Now, how long has Gulfstream been building this fuselage type with that standard Gulfstream window? 1960's when the first G1 came out. If I'm not mistaken, the Navy has GIV's (C37s??) that can seat 19 or 20 pax. Also, isn't the GIV certified for 19 in civil use? Why don't they require an evacuation crewmember? You'd think with the smaller cabin (length), it would be more cramped thus making an evacuation more difficult. Sounds to me like someone at the Fed level went out to make a name for themselves.

Regards,
2000Flyer

 

[fokkerjet]

Now, how long has Gulfstream been building this fuselage type with that standard Gulfstream window? 1960's when the first G1 came out. If I'm not mistaken, the Navy has GIV's (C37s??) that can seat 19 or 20 pax. Also, isn't the GIV certified for 19 in civil use? Why don't they require an evacuation crewmember? You'd think with the smaller cabin (length), it would be more cramped thus making an evacuation more difficult. Sounds to me like someone at the Fed level went out to make a name for themselves.

Regards,
2000Flyer

Take it a step further, what about the GV? Does it make sense on the G550 you need this "crew member", but the GV/G500 you don't? I'm not up on my G550, but the last I read it's fuselage is only slightly modified (cabin door repositioned) from the GV.

 

[2000flyer]

Take it a step further, what about the GV? Does it make sense on the G550 you need this "crew member", but the GV/G500 you don't? I'm not up on my G550, but the last I read it's fuselage is only slightly modified (cabin door repositioned) from the GV.

Excellent point!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

AND...let us remember...all this reliable info came from AIN, which tends to be about 80% fiction or just pure BS....

just an idea..

 

[rettofly]

[QUOTE.......will require “an evacuation crewmember” on all G550 flights carrying 10 or more passengers. QUOTE]

How large are the window wxits on BE1900? Last I heard, Part 121 doesn't require a cabin attendant for any a/c with fewer than 20 pax seats.