Eskimo ERJ175s flown by SkyWest.

[CA1900]

The 76-seat E175 jet will feature 12 seats in first class and 64 in coach, and boasts cabin dimensions on par with a 737.

In what universe are the cabin dimensions of an E-jet comparable to a 737?

 

[jonjuan]

In what universe are the cabin dimensions of an E-jet comparable to a 737?

It said On Par not Comparable.

 

[johnsonrod]

In what universe are the cabin dimensions of an E-jet comparable to a 737?

In many cases, the passenger experience is better for pax. The E170/175 has no middle seats (2X2), bigger windows, bins big enough to take most carry-on bags, and fewer old/jaded legacy-like dinosaur flight attendants. Sure, no IFE, but the seats and legroom seem comparable to what you find on a mainline aircraft.

 

[jonjuan]

In many cases, the passenger experience is better for pax. The E170/175 has no middle seats (2X2), bigger windows, bins big enough to take most carry-on bags, and fewer old/jaded legacy-like dinosaur flight attendants. Sure, no IFE, but the seats and legroom seem comparable to what you find on a mainline aircraft.

Sure, but the experience and qualifications lacking up front counter any pax advantages in the rear.

 

[SLOTH]

Sure, but the experience and qualifications lacking up front counter any pax advantages in the rear.

Quite the arrogant statement, but i guess anything goes on FI.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

In many cases, the passenger experience is better for pax. The E170/175 has no middle seats (2X2), bigger windows, bins big enough to take most carry-on bags, and fewer old/jaded legacy-like dinosaur flight attendants. Sure, no IFE, but the seats and legroom seem comparable to what you find on a mainline aircraft.

AS has a totally different FA group than Delta.

 

[Old School 737]

The reason for this and the new relationship with United is a return salvo to fight off Delta. From what I hear, Alaska is also buying up their own stick to make a hostile take over even harder. I also do not think that such a deal would make it past the Feds as consolidation is all but done unless its two smaller national carriers (like two airbus operators that have virtually no overlap).

Did Alaska and United partner up .. I haven't see this anywhere .. Did I miss something ?

 

[Old School 737]

And Alaska has been buying up "stick" I think you mean Stock .. For over a year now ..

 

[flyboyike]

"The E175 is new for the Alaska brand and fills a specific need to serve 'long, thin routes...

I remember when the airplane for "long, thin routes" was the -747SP.

 

[Russ]

As only 45 SP's were built, you might consider holding up another aircraft as the poster child for long thin routes.

Nonetheless, your point is taken.

 

[Old School 737]

Arnt 2 of them flying for some casino in Vegas?

 

[igneousy2]

Will never happen. There is too much route overlap. No way the DOJ would allow so many combined routes to be consolidated. The more routes they compete on into the future, the less and less likely a merger would ever happen with Delta. Maybe Alaska probably had its chance to merge a few years back but likely turned down Anderson.

Now, AA or SWA could maybe buy AS at some point.... You never know - depends on the DOJ.

History as a guide teaches that the DOJ has not stopped an airline merger since de-regulation. They threaten, kick and scream...and then there is a settlement. How about this for a settlement...Combined airline to give up half the total combined gates in Seattle...combined airline to surrender Alaskas DC beyond-perimeter slots, surrender a bunch of DCA and LGA normal slots as well as some other misc international authorities that were under-performing anyway. Alaska-specific RNP approaches released to the public- domain....anyway, who knows if it will happen, but if the DOJ ACTUALLY stopped it (actually go to court and get a judge to squash the merger)...it would be the first time in recent history.

 

[AK737FO]

Recent history...
I must be getting old then because it seem like just yesterday that the DOJ stopped the merger between UAL and somebody... was it USAir? I don't remember... but I do remember that it was stopped.

 

[Mookie]

Recent history...
I must be getting old then because it seem like just yesterday that the DOJ stopped the merger between UAL and somebody... was it USAir? I don't remember... but I do remember that it was stopped.

Yep. United and Us Airways when Steven "no plan B" Wolfe gorked up the whole thing.

Mookie

 

[Flopgut]

Recent history...
I must be getting old then because it seem like just yesterday that the DOJ stopped the merger between UAL and somebody... was it USAir? I don't remember... but I do remember that it was stopped.

Pretty much stopped them from buying America West also. That had not progressed much before the DOJ signaled "no way". Consolidation needed to start at that time, but DOJ wanted to pick the winners.

 

[Dan Roman]

It's also a whole new industry. In the past there where more airlines. Now there are just a handfull of airlines left and they are all full and profitable. The argument supporting anyone merging because it would enhance the marketplace no longer exists. And no ones survival is dependent on a merger like USAir/AWA.

 

[igneousy2]

Nope...United/US Air never made it to court...Justice department threatened to file suit..the merger was dropped before a case was filed or a judge ever ruling. Speculation was that United already wanted out but needed Justice to file suit to trigger a contingency so they could back out of the deal. And obviously AA/US was allowed so clearly UA/US was not the last word.


From ABC NEWS...
C H I C A G O, July 27 ? United Airlines and US Airways Group called off their $4.3 billion deal today after the Justice Department said it would sue to block the acquisition.

 

[igneousy2]

Although it has not happened recently, I think it is likely that the Justice Department would attempt to block a UA/DL tie-up for example. I don't think it's clear what the reaction would be to a UA/JB or a DL/AS.

It is not enough for the DOJ to show that the combined airline would own a particular percentage of a market, they must further prove that this increase in market share, would give them a substantial amount of pricing power that they would not have had otherwise. XM & Sirrius were allowed to merge because although the combined company would own 100% of the satellite radio market, competition from other forms of radio and entertainment in general would not give the company any substantial increase in pricing power.

This is why there is always so much talk about the overlap in the routes involving the slotted airports (DCA, LGA) where the barriers to entry for competitors are high. The barriers to entry for competition to come into an airport like SEA is fairly minimal. If Delta-Alaskan Airways tried to jack the prices in SEA upon merger, it could be argued that price increases would be kept in check by United having the potential to up-gauge there Seattle flights for example.

Again, I'm not arguing that a merger would happen, I'm just saying that DOJ blocking the next airline merger is not as black & white as some are claiming.

 

[Guppiedriver]

Alaskan Airways?