ERAU CAPT Program Failing its Students

[DKM]

Quote: www.captiscrap.com

Well it has been a year since CAPT started its 10 –12 month CAPT program and they will not be graduating any students today. CAPT management has once again shown their incompetence and brought more financial damage to the students that started this program trusting them to operate professionally. These guys will not grad now for another month or two AND CAPT STILL HAS NOT GOT ANYONE HIRED !!! After a year. 6 months ago they were claiming SERVERAL INTERVIEWS in place, yet today their website mach’s this same marketing propaganda as offers that other flights schools push but not us... Why, because they lied. They did not have them in place and they could not get them…

 

[tk855]

People need to learn that there are no shortcuts in this industry!!

 

[USMCAirWinger]

Ha Ha thats funny... they can now join the club with their TAB brothers....

 

[Bluestreak]

Gee,I don't get it.Gotta be plenty of openings for 500 hour MD90 Captains:

"This is a watershed event for Embry-Riddle and aviation training in general," said Gary Morrison, manager of the Boeing MD-90 EFD training program. "Mr. Aude and Mr. Wallace demonstrated that 500-hour pilots, when trained in a specialized program like the CAPT Program, are capable of the same command and judgment necessary for the airline transport pilot certificate that pilots with many more hours have."

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

Can't have yer cheesecake and eat it too
justice served

 

[FN FAL]

The government should step in do something about this. Is there any way that Kerry could possibly create jobs for these guys, so they can stay economically viable untill they are needed to fill the shoes of those soon to retire Vietnam vets?

 

[rumpletumbler]

The government should step in do something about this. Is there any way that Kerry could possibly create jobs for these guys, so they can stay economically viable untill they are needed to fill the shoes of those soon to retire Vietnam vets?

You know...I got a letter the other day from Kerry that said...

Rumpletumbler,

I have read in posts on flightinfo.com that you are having trouble gaining employment and might have trouble renewing your medical. While I see that your experience level only really qualifies you for a flight instructing position I realize that these jobs don't pay enough to support your family. I therefore would like you to consider the aviation initiative that I propose upon my election. It's called "Operation Free Ride" and guarantees pilots like yourself high income jobs flying only the latest equipment. There is only one stipulation and that is that you fly only only members of the Republican Party. As part of that initiative I will be segregating fractional commerical operations into the elephants and the donkeys. As long as you sign a contract to agree to fly for the elephants you will have a 6 figure income flying 7 figure equipment immediately. No currency, No medical, Nooooo Problem! I work it out so you don't have to work (for it that is). See you at the polls!

Johnny

 

[FN FAL]

[homer simpson]...mmmmmm, donkeys.[/homer simpson]

 

[Tripower455]

I have read in posts on flightinfo.com that you are having trouble gaining employment and might have trouble renewing your medical. While I see that your experience level only really qualifies you for a flight instructing position I realize that these jobs don't pay enough to support your family. I therefore would like you to consider the aviation initiative that I propose upon my election. It's called "Operation Free Ride" and guarantees pilots like yourself high income jobs flying only the latest equipment. There is only one stipulation and that is that you fly only only members of the Republican Party. As part of that initiative I will be segregating fractional commerical operations into the elephants and the donkeys. As long as you sign a contract to agree to fly for the elephants you will have a 6 figure income flying 7 figure equipment immediately. No currency, No medical, Nooooo Problem! I work it out so you don't have to work (for it that is). See you at the polls!

I realize that this was posted in jest, but it sounds very similar to what the EEOC actually DID for "certain" people!

 

[Catbird]

Looks exactly like EEOC hiring criteria. Looks as though your on to something there Trip. If it's not the EEOC it could be similiar to College admissions. You recieve extra points if your Daddy was a Crack dealer but your grades suck. Maybe Osama has a few valid points with U.S. behavior.

 

[bobbysamd]

Hiring shortcuts, i.e cutting in line, cutting off others, ad infinitum, ad nauseum

People need to learn that there are no shortcuts in this industry!!

E.g., P-F-T, pay-for-interview et al. Comair, nka DCA and Mesa could be regarded as shortcuts, but, bottom line, both are legitimate 141 flight schools. "The interview" is a strong incentive, though. We cannot forget,

Ha Ha thats funny... they can now join the club with their TAB brothers....

I realize the original post was made in jest. But, there will be at least a couple of individuals who will say the tenor of this thread is laced with envy, jealousy, bitterness and self-pity - all non sequiturs. Even if true, better these things than spending a ton of money on training that is chancy and virtually worthless.

 

[sky37d]

I read over the weekend that ERAU lost a bunch of airplanes as a result of the hurricane. I would imagine that this, unfortunately, will also delay those folks who are in the program.

 

[FlierDude]

All these programs should be approached with more than a grain of salt, more like the whole box! I went through a community college 141 program back in the '80's, all they knew how to really do were to burn someone else's funds. Had to keep the chief pilot and my instructor on-track many times. They kept trying to delay checkrides, etc.

There ARE no shortcuts. It will catch up with you!

 

[Tripower455]

All these programs should be approached with more than a grain of salt, more like the whole box! I went through a community college 141 program back in the '80's, all they knew how to really do were to burn someone else's funds. Had to keep the chief pilot and my instructor on-track many times. They kept trying to delay checkrides, etc.

There ARE no shortcuts. It will catch up with you!

Unless, of course, you fall in to the hard to define category of "minority".... In which case, many (most?) employers will skip over 1000s of MUCH more qualified applicants to hire you. It has and does happen.......

 

[bobbysamd]

E O E

Unless, of course, you fall in to the hard to define category of "minority".... In which case, many (most?) employers will skip over 1000s of MUCH more qualified applicants to hire you. It has and does happen.......

Of course it does. The United 300-hours wonders - and I'm not talking about the Rick Dubinskys of the '60s. I recall at least one young lady who graduated from ERAU-Prescott in the late '80s whom TWA hired with, I'm sure, no more than 1000 hours. She came to a Riddle Career Day or something wearing her TWA uniform. It was pretty comical.

My understanding of equal opportunity is no matter what one is or is not everyone gets an equal opportunity. Some people are more equal than others.

 

[mudkow60]

Sorry.. meant to start a new thread.

 

[100LL... Again!]

One one hand, I feel like I should feel sorry for these people gypped by the riddle CAPT program.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if they all thought they were gonna cut in front of everyone else, and think that they were better pilots too.

I end up with a serves-'em-right feeling, brutal as it is.

Financial suicide, for sure.

 

[FN FAL]

One one hand, I feel like I should feel sorry for these people gypped by the riddle CAPT program.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if they all thought they were gonna cut in front of everyone else, and think that they were better pilots too.

I end up with a serves-'em-right feeling, brutal as it is.

Financial suicide, for sure.

I think W.C. Fields said it best..."A woman drove me to drinking...and I'd like to thank her!"

No...was it, "I don't drink water...fish frolic in it!"

No...it was, "There's a sucker born every minute!"

Let them eat cake!

 

[bobbysamd]

Riddle C(R)APT

One one hand, I feel like I should feel sorry for these people gypped by the riddle CAPT program.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if they all thought they were gonna cut in front of everyone else, and think that they were better pilots too.

I end up with a serves-'em-right feeling, brutal as it is.

Financial suicide, for sure.

(emphasis added)

I agree. Whether one should feel sorry for all of these folks, any of them, one of them, or none of them, would depend on the amount and quality of advice they received before they signed up for CAPT. Reading this board alone will provide plenty of pro and anti-P-F-T opinions. Anyone who signed up for CAPT solely on ERAU's representations surely do not deserve anyone's sympathy. Not to mention that signing up for any kind of P-F-T is a conscious, voluntary decision and not done under duress. In other words, no one forces anyone to buy a job - and is something not quite comprehendible when similar, free jobs are out there. You decide to do it or not do it. There are choices.

Someone, not necessarily P.T. Barnum, said that a sucker is born every minute. P-F-T or quasi-P-F-T having ripoff potential has been part of my anti-P-F-T message all along. You get what you pay for. Caveat emptor.