EJI Hiring Again? Any Update? GIVSP vs. GV

[On Your Six]

Yes, I know this post seems to come around every few weeks... However, a friend of mine met an EJI newhire in Hilton Head a few weeks ago and said that a bunch of guys had been hired recently. I can't recall if I had heard the same on these boards...

So, does anyone know if EJI will continue hiring in the near-to-medium term? Is this hiring due to attrition or due to fleet growth? Can newhires start on the GV as an FO - and if that happens are they assigned to the GV without any GIVSP flying? Are the new G550s being integrated into the fleet? Also, if there are any EJI guys out there, what percentage of your flying is international?

Lastly, I know that there appears to be a lot of animosity between the EJI and the EJA groups (who believe the EJI guys will be stapled onto the bottom of the list, etc.) - let's not make this a bash fest.... No politics here - I just want an update on the hiring situation and to understand the GV vs. GIVSP situation.

Thanks

 

[Speedmach5]

Great place to work if you want to see the world.
Most of the pilots at NJI are great to fly with!
Decent pay and a schedule too! Live where you want to live!

 

[psysicx]

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[zman300]

So, does anyone know if EJI will continue hiring in the near-to-medium term? Is this hiring due to attrition or due to fleet growth? Can newhires start on the GV as an FO - and if that happens are they assigned to the GV without any GIVSP flying? Are the new G550s being integrated into the fleet? Also, if there are any EJI guys out there, what percentage of your flying is international?

Yes, hiring expected to continue, but you'd better have had a resume in for a couple of years, and have a type rating.

New hires are placed in a/c depending on need, so if we take delivery of a 550 right around the time you're due to complete training, you'll get the 550 as an FO. If we're getting a IV, you'll go in that. Manning req's drives what you get.

Int'l flying was about 50% for me this year. Seems like I spent the last half of the year in Europe.

 

[psysicx]

Is the 7/7 schedule that bad?And do you ever fly to Aisa?

 

[zman300]

Is the 7/7 schedule that bad?And do you ever fly to Aisa?

I'm too new to be on 7/7. Haven't been to Asia yet; not too practical on the 6/5 schedule, and with a one-yr-old, I'm not too willing to work extended trips.

 

[psysicx]

What other schedule do they have?Is it the 17 day schedule?

 

[rajflyboy]

Schedules

7 on 7 Off
17 Day Schedule >> You will know which 17 days you are working on the 15th of the month prior
Flex >> More Money and they can use you up to 21 days in a month.. also more money for working 20 or 21 days

 

[psysicx]

Thanks

 

[paulsalem]

Any interview gouges?

 

[zman300]

NJI has only 7/7 or 6/5.

.....

 

[TCA]

Crewing

AND....
the last of the G400's (1) will be delivered in Feb. Most likely the G450's and G550's in the future will roll into the "5" fleet. Then all new hires will go to the existing GIVSP and G400's. But, stranger things have happen.....

Its the smartest move for the money.

"Still Climbing"
TCA

 

[el gringo]

Anyone here able to talk money 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year at EJI?
FO Pay?
Capt Pay?

 

[TCA]

N.j.i.

I think that is N.J.I. now. Those figures have been and prob. will remain U.F.O.'s, sorry bout that.

The only thing I would bet on is 5 years to left seat.

Happy Holidays

"Still Climbing"
TCA

 

[el gringo]

Thanks TCA.

 

[NJIG4Driver]

I don't think it's too big a secret. First year guys are starting around 66K if they don't have a G4 or 5 type and around 71K if they do. That's about all you can count on. We don't have a pay scale so your raises are dependent on what percentage increase the company doles out. It's been about 3% the last couple of years and will probably stay there for the foreseeable future. Five years to left seat is what we're hoping for now. No guarantees!!! Starting captain pay is now around 90K (no matter how long you wait.)

 

[Diesel]

since it's the other side of the company.

If you were in the right seat and made lets say 95k you would have to take a pay cut to move to the left seat?

 

[zman300]

heh heh!

since it's the other side of the company.

If you were in the right seat and made lets say 95k you would have to take a pay cut to move to the left seat?

That's a good question. From a practical standpoint, though, it won't happen that way. The salary jump to captain has historically been around 17%, so if you've got FOs making over 90k by the time they upgrade, you can expect a commensurate hike in Captain pay. If there isn't, like any offer, you could accept or decline of course. As someone else already pointed out, raises are based solely on the economic health of the company, so why would I take a pay cut which would never match a hypothetically higher FO salary to become a captain? The beauty of our management team, however, has always been that they usually look after what's fair and best for us all. While we don't have a firm answer to your question, I think it's safe to say most of us aren't losing any sleep over it.