"Duty time"

[captdaddy]

Is being "available" (on call) for a flight under FAR Part 135 at an hour's notice considered being "on duty"?

Thoughts?

 

[Dustin H]

Seems to be some gray area there. My company puts us on a 24 hour schedule for 20 days straight. Mind you this is an "on call" status. We're technically not doing anything for the company but standing by.

 

[Bandit60]

My understanding is duty time starts once you get to the airport, and duty times ends once you leave the airport that day.

 

[CL60]

Report to release

135.273 a

"Duty period means the period of elapsed time between reporting for an assignment involving flight time and release from that assignment by the certificate holder. The time is calculated using either Coordinated Universal Time or local time to reflect the total elapsed time."

 

[Sctt@NJA]

Not exactly answering your question... but just to clarify... it doesn't count as REST either.

I existed in such an on-call status at a 135 company for pretty much two years straight (24/7/365)

It is NOT legal though people still operate that way and get away with it.

In order to fly a 135 trip you need to have had 10 hours rest in the last 24 hours. Being on call is not rest under the rules.

When I questioned my chief pilot about it he said we weren't "on call" but rather called it "opportunity time".. don't ask me to explain, I don't understand it myself.

It was just a way for a shoe-string operator to try to justify an efficient, but illegal, means of doing business.

 

[CaSyndrm]

I think your just a big baby trying to find a way out of working a lot. Cowboy up and fly.
:~)

 

[pilotyip]

not rest, not duty

The Feds are supposed publish some more information on this very subject. They will define as something like this, Duty is when you are assigned duty by the company, i.e. flight, ground school, be in the bldg. waiting for a flight, Rest as a period when the crewmember can not be assigned any duties as defined as duty per above, and lastly a new one. Time that is not duty, or rest, because you have not been assigned anything by the company after completing rest, but are available to accept a duty assignment. i.e. wearing pager after being rested. This is kind of the way we operate in the on-demand business and our POI blesses it.

 

[captdaddy]

I think your just a big baby trying to find a way out of working a lot. Cowboy up and fly.
:~)

Yeah...right. That's the pot calling the kettle black! You sure sound funny saying that with your skirt on!

:^)

 

[mavrck]

keep in mind also that "Duty Time" does not take into account "Travel that is local in nature". This covers the drive/fly time to the field. If it takes you 2 hours to drive to work the Feds dont care. Duty time starts from the time you get to the plane til the time you leave it.

 

[Jet_Dreamer]

duty time at your company will be based on your poi. every poi has a different definition of the FAR's. i suggest logging your duty time the way your poi understands the reg. he will be the one looking at your duty time logs.