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Duchess v. Seneca v. Seminole for Multi

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LewisU_Pilot said:
Mini your avatar is in this months maxim

It's time to change...I had a good one of Hillary Duff but it was too large (size not pixel) so that didn't work...still looking for a replacement...

-mini
 
I did my multi training in the Seminole. Okay airplane. Now I am building hours in a Seneca I. I found the Seneca more challenging and made me more precise with my flying. I like the Seneca.

I will agree the Seneca is challenging to land, need quite a bit of back pressure, keep trimming the plane for nose up while descending to land. I find it helps to put your feet up on the panel and use the strength in your leg muscles to help maintain back pressure and give you some extra force while you are pulling back on the yoke.

All kidding aside, I have not flown the Duchess. Go with the least expensive. The Seminole was a nice, easy plane to fly. The Seneca tests your ability to handle a heavier plane better.
 
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Thank you so much for your input. It has helped a lot. For what it is worth, I have decided to get the add on in the Duchess at the flying club and then do a checkout in the Seneca I. Getting it done in 2.9 like mini would be outstanding, however, I think I'll try to be a little more realistic and shoot for getting it done in 10 or less. Thanks again.
 
good luck, daddy. let's see if you can beat mini's record ;)
 
Yellow Snow said:
so you will never get to see what really happens when you loose one. All the acft on your list are this way. I went up in an apache with a friend and did a vmc demo just so I could see what it was like to truly loose control. I recommend this as it is really an eye opener.

were you doing VMC demos, or VMC rollovers? I hope the former.
 
On my MEI checkride, the examiner asked me if my instructor had shown me what happens when a student pushes the wrong pedal during SE ops. I said no, we discussed it and ways to prevent it, but he never demonstrated. So the DPE promptly climbed up to 5000ft, killed an engine, and stomped the incorrect pedal. We *quickly* flipped over on our backs in the Seneca I we were flying. So fast, in fact, I think I only had time to say "Oh sh!t" before we were about 110 degrees or so from where we started. So fast it was only the second time I'd truly been scared flying. I retarded the other throttle and recovered from the maneuver using a spilt-s, and the DPE said "THAT is why multi-engine instructing is so dangerous."

It was most certainly an eye opener, and I suggest anybody working on their MEI do this at least once with a competent instructor, if only for the experience. It might safe your life one day...
 
I suppose that might happen with a 2.9 hour multi pilot with a rating.

Come on people, don't train for a checkride, train to be proficient and safe. I promise you, you're NOT in 2.9 hours.
 
daddysquared said:
Thank you so much for your input. It has helped a lot. For what it is worth, I have decided to get the add on in the Duchess at the flying club and then do a checkout in the Seneca I. Getting it done in 2.9 like mini would be outstanding, however, I think I'll try to be a little more realistic and shoot for getting it done in 10 or less. Thanks again.

I think you'll be happy with the Duchess. Although i've never flown a Seneca or a Seminole I do have about 100 hrs in the Duchess and it's an awesome plane to learn in. Well I should say it's awesome aslong as it's in good condition and well maintained. The only downside really has been mentioned before about the possible lack of spare parts. Oh that and the heaters usually don't work because circuit breakers always pop because people always forget to let it cool off before shutting things down.
 
CapnVegetto said:
I suppose that might happen with a 2.9 hour multi pilot with a rating.

Come on people, don't train for a checkride, train to be proficient and safe. I promise you, you're NOT in 2.9 hours.

I'd have to agree with this. It took me 16 hrs to get my multi/comm/inst add on and although I could have gotten it about 5 hours sooner I didn't because I didn't feel 100% confident in the a/c by myself doing long IFR x/c flights. That and needing an IPC didn't help either.

Although i'm glad that mini's making a good choice in choosing to get some more time in with an MEI.
 

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