Doug takes a shot at Dave

[TWA Dude]

Anybody else notice that Doug called the 190's "regional jets". Surely, he misspoke considering they're mainline jets for US.

 

[Nado]

32, Thanks for the response. U's own told me that. I didn't think it was from external threats - more likely it was because one of Uniteds happy employees might want to take matters into their own hands.

I am searching for a letter that a UAL FA told me about that your management sent to JB's asking them to stop or limit the jumpseats they offer to their own people. Seems they don't like the fact JB gives so many of them rides from South Florida to New York. UAL taking care of its people. What have you heard?

I just got done reading the stuff over at untied.com - interesting stuff. I guess that is all true as well? I am first in line to work over there. I would love to give the most valuable years of my life to people like that.

Just wanted to hear it from the horses mouth. Oh yeah- stop taking water bottles out of the cockpit.

 

[IronCityBlue]

4 more months til this guy can reapply...

Since you all sign a individual contract does that mean each and every one of you is sort of like an express carrier for the JBLU name?

Yes, that's exactly what it means. Maybe that's why you look down on us. We remind you of the thousands upon thousands of lowly "express" pilots who'se jobs you created in your bargaining credit outsourcing binges to pad your lifestyle in the good times and in the bad times furloughed thousands and thousands of your own to save yourself while said lowly express pilots were being hired by (you guessed it) the thousands.

As for our contract, we are currently working hard on a fat, iron clad summer of love contract just like the one you have now.

Now run along and go loosen up a scope clause or something. By the way your A320 rates are getting close to ours, you better lower them to stay competitive. Oh, and don't forget to unscrew that water bottle and take a sip before you walk up the jetbridge. "It was open, sir, I swear!"

 

[jetfo]

Thats funny, when I was traveling to JFK for the interview, I spoke with one of the passengers who happened to be a loyal USAir customer for years. Since JetBlue began servicing SYR, she's switched to jetBlue and has been a customer since. She said the difference in product is night and day. I would have to agree with her! I don't see jetBlue being driven away anytime soon! Their product is far superior to any other airline I've flown on. Just my opinion.

Yeah, and the best rated airline last year with the best service was FLYI!

So much for that. It's all about the $$$!

 

[JBPA]

By the way your A320 rates are getting close to ours, you better lower them to stay competitive.

While I think 32 is definately over the top and confrontational, I wouldn't be bragging or comparing our payrates with anyone elses. Especially taunting them to 'lower' theirs to ours.

Our pay is low and certainly nothing to brag about.

 

[IronCityBlue]

grain of salt my friend

While I think 32 is definately over the top and confrontational, I wouldn't be bragging or comparing our payrates with anyone elses. Especially taunting them to 'lower' theirs to ours.

Our pay is low and certainly nothing to brag about.

Its far from bragging. He constantly accuses and/or implies we are dragging down the pay and QOL of the profession. When you do that, you get stones thrown at your own glass house. I was simply pointing out that our years 1-12 bus rates adjusted for an average line value of 85 hours credit a month are about 11% higher than his for CA and a small amount higher than FO's.

Again, it has nothing to do with bragging. If his little house of cards can't handle a slight breeze the he shouldn't go around demanding a confrontation.

I doubt I am taunting anyone to lower their rates. What UAL or anyone else decides to agree to with regards to pay is 100% unrelated to anything on here anyway. And when you compare our 320 rates with our generous overtime system to any other small-medium narrowbody payrates we stack up quite nicely overall, and more than many that fall into the nonexistant but often overhyped DOT "Legacy" category.

The problem isn't with us. I provided evidence to support that stance in direct responose to his accusations to the contrary. I disagree that it falls into the category of bragging or taunting.

Now if you want to say I'm wizzing in the wind trying to reason with the guy, well, you've got a point there.

 

[Lake Alice]

I definately understand where IronCityBlue is coming from but I also agree our pay rates aren't something to jump up and down about. That being said the fact we are a six year old company is often lost when pay rates are discussed. 32 and others simply point fingers and pick fights as a side affect of little man syndrome.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Doug and Dave?

Weren't those the two American Decathletes that were supposed to finish Gold and Silver in the 1992 Summer Olympics?

 

[32LT10]

I am searching for a letter that a UAL FA told me about that your management sent to JB's asking them to stop or limit the jumpseats they offer to their own people. Seems they don't like the fact JB gives so many of them rides from South Florida to New York. UAL taking care of its people. What have you heard?

I just got done reading the stuff over at untied.com - interesting stuff. I guess that is all true as well? I am first in line to work over there. I would love to give the most valuable years of my life to people like that.

Just wanted to hear it from the horses mouth. Oh yeah- stop taking water bottles out of the cockpit.

You read untied.com? Nice. Similar to the information about the jblew f/a on queen of the sky I would say. You guys say she holds no water yet you believe a website yourself. I would say typical but you already knew that.

Interesting story about the letter. It would be very interesting for you to post it here so we can all see what you are talking about.

I read you guys are getting new uniforms. Is it true you are going with coveralls that have "sanitation dept." stamped on the back? Just wanted to get if straight from the janitors mouth.

 

[Dizel8]

I read you guys are getting new uniforms. Is it true you are going with coveralls that have "sanitation dept." stamped on the back? Just wanted to get if straight from the janitors mouth.

It is true and the first piece of thrash we will be disposing off is you

On a more serious note, I notice that the Yonited brainsurgeon still cannot spell jetblue!

 

[ultrarunner]

JetBlue CEO David Neeleman made the following comment "Charlotte and Raleigh-Durham have natural ties to New York, but until now, the people of North Carolina have overpaid for sub-standard service."

Having flown in the back on those routes a BUNCH over the years, I don't see anything in the statement above that is inaccurate.

Sometimes ya gotta tell it like it is.

 

[32LT10]

It is true and the first piece of thrash we will be disposing off is you

On a more serious note, I notice that the Yonited brainsurgeon still cannot spell jetblue!

"disposing off"??? Can you clarify that statement as it does not make sense. Funny you would dispute my spelling of blew with such gross errors of your own. I suppose it should be jetblow for now and jetblew when Needleman folds the tent and take the revival to a new location.

 

[JB Bus Drvr]

Hey, just figured it out. The reason why 32 is such an AH is that he's married to B. Keeping the UA family all together. Way to go 32!

 

[Dizel8]

I am sorry, 32, here is your clarification:

- dispose of 1 b (1) : to get rid of <how to dispose of toxic waste> (2) : to deal with conclusively <disposed of the matter efficiently>

 

[Fins Up]

"disposing off"??? Can you clarify that statement as it does not make sense. Funny you would dispute my spelling of blew with such gross errors of your own. I suppose it should be jetblow for now and jetblew when Needleman folds the tent and take the revival to a new location.

More amazing is your ability to continually prove yourself an idiot. An extra keystroke turning 'of' into 'off' is one thing. Looking like an idiot with the useless trash you regularly post is quite another. Surely you're intelligent enough to tell the difference. Then again - maybe not.

 

[32LT10]

Hey, just figured it out. The reason why 32 is such an AH is that he's married to B. Keeping the UA family all together. Way to go 32!

Ouch, now you have gone too far. She is a treasure now isn't she. Glad you guys took her off our hands. There are a few more we are willing to donate if you are still going to hire all those people you said you were. It is starting to come clear. Blew is a disposal for the UA castoffs. With the exception of the furloughed guys I know of another odd ball that landed at blew.

 

[IB6 UB9]

I'm willing to bet that 32 is a crusty old scab, or an 800 hr wonder that was hired at United back in the late 90's and was furloughed and busted his interview at B6. I lean towards the latter...I think B6 "took out the trash" after 30 minutes of seeing his true character, the same character that resulted in his ban not too long ago. Been trying on your 6X undies lately you sick fxxx? Remember, you posted it. Your credibility is that of a common house fly.

 

[32LT10]

With a user name like IB6 UB9 who is the twisted soul. Nice one Mr. Fallwell. Does it take you twice as long to shave both of your faces?

No one has answered the question. Does blew have a furlough policy? Will they do it in reverse seniority order? Who cleans the airplane the quickest stays? There has to be a thought to how this process is going to play out.

 

[Uppercrust]

Hey, just figured it out. The reason why 32 is such an AH is that he's married to B. Keeping the UA family all together. Way to go 32!

Who's b, is she on this board?? What is her name??

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

With a user name like IB6 UB9 who is the twisted soul. Nice one Mr. Fallwell. Does it take you twice as long to shave both of your faces?

No one has answered the question. Does blew have a furlough policy? Will they do it in reverse seniority order? Who cleans the airplane the quickest stays? There has to be a thought to how this process is going to play out.

There is no furlough policy because we don't furlough, never have and never will, jerk. We can send the entire work group to minimum hours and keep everyone, saving on premium pay (just like we did after 9/11 for a month) because there is no union. A typical captain here on the bus makes more than most equivelent bus captains at UAUA with premium pay, so stop dragging down the industry pay!!!! And by the way, blue is spelled, err, ahh, B L U E... I think JBLU has the chemistry to make it all the way, because we have the best group of pilots around, many of whom use to wear your colors, idiot!!!

 

[Eagleflip]

Moderator Input

Let's keep real names off the thread please Ladies and Gents...

 

[SWA/FO]

because we have the best group of pilots around

Did you mean to say "Southwest has the best group of Pilots around" Cus thats what I have heard.

I personally think Jet Blue will be OK in the long run... however, I just fly airplanes and have no idea what is happening behind closed doors. They have grown very fast... makes me think of people's express...sometimes.

imp:

 

[ferlo]

There is no furlough policy because we don't furlough, never have and never will

Sure, Nobody ever said that before. Jblu is not immune to anything, I think doug's letter points that out rather plainly.

 

[Lake Alice]

If you dont want someone to know who you are then don't make idiotic posts.

People like 32LT10 will only shut up when their veil is removed.

 

[PHXFLYR]

"excluding transition related expenses".

Giggle.

Translated: "We're not going to come close to earning a profit either."

Perhaps. But if we do lose money it will be because of the one time charges
associated with the merger pushing us into the loss column,not the operation ,as is the case at JetBlue.


PHXFLYR

 

[Spectre]

All:

Before I would go off half cocked about who will beat who......you must look at the "segments" of the airline business.

U certainly has a lot of business flyers who demand first class, upgrades, lounges, and worldwide service, and they make their bread and butter on those folks and at the same time carry lots of families on vacations. Legacy carriers concentrate on people who HAVE to fly for their job/work.

JB caters to more of the discretionary traveler, like the families who are on vacation and the occasional traveller. Of course, they carry their share of business people who have to fly to work and that is where the battleground, but their bread and butter is people who fly because they WANT to. In other words, they will fly if they can afford it.

I think they cater to different segments of the business. Some customers will choose one over the other. Some choose price, some choose schedule, some choose service. There is enough to go around.

This is all a mute point if jetA stays at $2.50-3.00 per gallon. There isn't a profitable route with that kind of fuel bill in the US.

A350

I think you can't overlook JetBlue's flying into: BOS-JFK, BOS-IAD, JFK-BUF, JFK-SYR, JFK-ROC, JFK-RIC as business traveler routes more than leisure. I hear the E-190 is flying full loads between BOS-JFK and BOS-IAD. That's certainly taking some business travelers away from the competition.

 

[Spectre]

How's the pilot seniority list integration going at LCC? I see it very rough going as USAir pilots are much more senior than AWA's pilots. However, I find it interesting that AWA pilots feel their company somehow saved USAir and were instrumental in the merger. AWA didn't have any great sums of money to make this happen, they borrowed the financing to merge with USAir.

As for stock price, sure LCC has made many investors happy. If I had some LCC stock though, I'd be selling. They aren't making money this year and 1st quarter "earnings" will prove that.

 

[IB6 UB9]

If you dont want someone to know who you are then don't make idiotic posts.

People like 32LT10 will only shut up when their veil is removed.

People like 32 only shut up when they are banned for showing the type of character they are. Did he not post a child pornography website he had been frequenting to try and get someone's goat by telling that person that it was his/her daughter? How classy. Now he won't even acknowledge that fact. 32, I saw on the scab list there was someone busted in a child porn ring...that you? If it's not, he's better than you.

 

[McNugget]

I think you all just got punk'd by Rhoid, a.k.a. 32LT10.

P.S.- jetBLUE pilots are a class act. So are all of the real United, American, Southwest, Spirit, and AirTran pilots I have ever met, even when I was an RJ driver bumming a ride to work. Thanks for not being d1cks in real life.

 

[Deli Guy]

"disposing off"??? Can you clarify that statement as it does not make sense. Funny you would dispute my spelling of blew with such gross errors of your own. I suppose it should be jetblow for now and jetblew when Needleman folds the tent and take the revival to a new location.

I remember the good old days at Uterusnited, back in the days 32lt remembers the fondest! The gym at check in, voting yourselves payraises! That worked well. Now 32Lt is an old drunk who comes on the boards and raves. Rave on 32LT! It is like watching a once proud hunting dog trying to mount a sack of flour. Does anyone understand what I just wrote? Thats how I feel when I read 3210lt's posts.