Don't pay Kit D. any more $.

[BoDEAN]

Re: The void Kit fills

Now, if there was a resource available that supplied honest and candid information about the risks v. rewards of the career, was entirely candid about the pilot non-shortage, and gave instruction on the job-seeking process, there would be no need for Kit.

All joking aside, If you find a source, please let us know!

 

[bobbysamd]

FCI

The only good thing about a United bankruptcy is the thought of that con-artist shoving out the 200 clams for one of his own pony shows. I'm sad to hear he bought FCI, that was a good rag to find a job..........

It was, and Captain Mac was one of the few first-class people you'll encounter in this business. I wish him well in his retirement.

 

[rjcap]

This guy doesnt know when to stop he just bought Flight Crews International, that was a decent source of info till he bought it

Does anybody else see the irony here ?



Ever since Sept 11, 2001 Air Inc.'s business has pretty much gone in the toilet. So what does Kit go and do ?

He buys another airline info/recruit business in hopes of growing himself into profitability.

Kinda like United purchasing UsAir !!

 

[Timebuilder]

If enough people pass this info around, then Kit will be out of business.

The questions are these: how many suckers are born every minute?

How many furloughed pilots will line up to buy Kit's "job fair" ticket?

How many people think that Kit will give them the necessary "edge"?

My guess: a lot. I wonder if a segment on 60 minutes would help or hurt?

 

[ms6073]

I wonder if a segment on 60 minutes would help or hurt?

Possibly, but only if it includes a reasonable attempt at publically debunking this 'pilot shortage' myth that seems to continue to persist for the better part of the last 15 to 20 years.

IMHO the only sector of aviation that could be considered to have continuely enjoyed a shortage of pilots, is the various branches of the U.S. military!

 

[pilotyip]

Boycott

Yea, a boycott would be good idea, that way the people who do attend and there will still be 300-400 of them won't have competition at the Job Fair and stand a better chance of getting some of the jobs that come out of the fair. I know of al least 25 guys who landed great jobs as a result of the fair.

 

[trainerjet]

I think there was someone earlier in the thread who mentioned that he was one of them. No one wants to hear that stuff, though.

They just want to hear the ranting and raving about what a rip-off it is.

 

[Timebuilder]

I know of al least 25 guys who landed great jobs as a result of the fair.

Outside of PFT, I think it is GREAT that 25 people got great jobs. Hurray!

Now, more to the point, how many people paid money based on HYPE, and were NOT hired?

How many of the 25 could have been hired WITHOUT Kit Darby?

Those are good questions, eh?

 

[Publishers]

wrapped up

Me thinks that you get too wrapped up in the semantics and reality.

The fact is that it does not make a big difference whether or not there was a shortage. As long as there are people willing to seek a pilot profession and as long as companies will show up at the job fairs, Kit will have a business. People want to be commercial pilots and will seek out the information and be willing to pay for it. This is not a public service and why should he have one.

He says this is how to get the job. If he says Delta likes men to have red ties on and blue suits, are you going to chance something else.

 

[Anaconda]

IMHO what is even worse than this subject is the number of flight schools that are still running advertisements in all of the major aviation magazines with all of their promises of future employment with airlines that have pilots on furlough and cute stories of single moms making a go of it in the airline industry. that to me is beyond reproach in this day and age, and they should be ashamed, but i know they won't because they are all out for a buck...

 

[BigFlyr]

Let's say we all boycot ARINC, which I have been a member of off and on for several years...just like UPAS... Let's say they go out of business... Now we have a void in the marketplace and some other $cum-$ucking @ssholes will take advantage of it. By the way, niether of the above mentioned companies ever helped me get a job but they sure as heck made it more difficult and expensive to get one. Furthermore, the ARINC magazine and newsletter is notoriously late and inaccurate in providing up to date information. I for one will not re-subscribe, ever!

 

[bobbysamd]

60 Minutes

Originally posted by Timebuilder I wonder if a segment on 60 minutes would help or hurt?

From one former radio newsie to another, I think it might help. But, it has to be reported properly. It has to cover all aspects of aviation hiring myth, e.g, you-know-what and pilot shortage for openers. It has to be written in kindergarten-level English, primarily because the public believes that pilots belong to some esoteric, secret, Kremlin-like society, and have no clue that so many applicants are vying for so few jobs. And, that most of those jobs do not pay six figures.

Pub, as always, raises a valid point about Kit and his "service." Even if Kit were to be debunked, the uninitiated will still turn to him for guidance. And, as their Pied Piper, Kit will lead the uninitiated down the primrose path of hiring oblivion.

Now, if someone came around who provided honest aviation career guidance information and disclosed the realities of aviation career-building up front while still providing encouragement, that person, in my .02, would make a million dollars.

 

[dashtrash]

I stopped supporting Kit after I read the issue that featured my airline. TOTAL FLUFF!!! And the "Pilot's Perspective" article was even worse. They found a guy that said mgt. was the best and pilots get paid too much. He did not speak for any of us.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

I only read the mag. No reason for me to even bother with anything else. Interesting point by dashtrash about that mag though. It really seems as if they often choose a pilot to interview who is only at the company for 6 months, on probation, and won't tell one word of truth to what they actually like or dislike about the job. I don't even have 400 hours flight time and that was pretty easy to pick up on. On the other hand, he does have to keep the airlines happy to get these interviews soooooooo.........that's what the product gives us.


Mr. I.

 

[frank rizzo]

Hey kit why you hidin you haven't responded. you surf this board ! why can't you step up to plate !