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Yes, 61.51 refers to the logging of time. However, it has nothing to do with the obligation of the flight instructor.
If a flight instructor provides flight or ground training, he or she MUST sign the logbook of the person who has received it. The flight instructor must also maintain a record in a logbook or separate document that contains a record of this instruction.
See 14 CFR 61.189(a).
Citationkid appears to be asking if he needs the endorsement of instructors with whom he has flown. The answer, best addressed by Midlifeflyer, is that it depends on the circumstances. If you were not receiving instruction, then the instructor should not endorse your logbook, regardless of the circumstances.
If you were flying an airplane for which you were rated, and were receiving instruction in the airplane, then the instructor MUST endorse your logbook to show the training received. The only liability in this is to the extent that the instruction was received properly. If an instructor provides two hours of multi engine instruction, he or she is not liable if a non-rated pilot flies a multi engine airplane into the ground. Simply because the instruction was given, doesn't make the instructor responsible for anything more than what he or she has agreed to by endorsing the log. As an example, if an instructor provided an hour of stall training in a multi engine airplane to a nonmulti-engine rated pilot, then the instructor has only a duty to have provided proper and acceptable instruction on that one subject.
Weather the student then kills himself or herself in a multi engine airplane while performing stalls, is not relevant, so long as the instruction was properly given, and properly documented. The duty of the instructor is to properly instruct, and to properly document that instruction. The instructor is not inherently tied to the subsequent actions of the student.
Citationkid appears to be stating in this case that he or she flew an airplane, but was not receiving instruction. Further, citationkid appears to be stating indirectly that he or she was sole manipulator of the controls, and therefore wishes to log the time. I must suppose that this time was in aircraft for which citationkid wasn't rated, else he wouldn't need to enquire about getting the endorsement.
If this is the case, and the flying was as sole manipulator without any actual instruction being given, then requesting or receiving the endorsement of an instructor is not appropriate, nor legal.
Night_flight suggested that an instructor is only required to endorse a student's logbook when that instruction is used toward a certificate or rating, or privilege. This is incorrect. An instructor must provide an endorsement for ALL instruction given. An instructor may know or may not know weather the instruction given will eventually be used to qualify for a certificate, rating, or privilege at a later date, and does not have the discretion as to weather to sign the log or not; he or she must sign the logbook of the student for any instruction given, without exception.
Yes, 61.51 refers to the logging of time. However, it has nothing to do with the obligation of the flight instructor.
If a flight instructor provides flight or ground training, he or she MUST sign the logbook of the person who has received it. The flight instructor must also maintain a record in a logbook or separate document that contains a record of this instruction.
See 14 CFR 61.189(a).
Citationkid appears to be asking if he needs the endorsement of instructors with whom he has flown. The answer, best addressed by Midlifeflyer, is that it depends on the circumstances. If you were not receiving instruction, then the instructor should not endorse your logbook, regardless of the circumstances.
If you were flying an airplane for which you were rated, and were receiving instruction in the airplane, then the instructor MUST endorse your logbook to show the training received. The only liability in this is to the extent that the instruction was received properly. If an instructor provides two hours of multi engine instruction, he or she is not liable if a non-rated pilot flies a multi engine airplane into the ground. Simply because the instruction was given, doesn't make the instructor responsible for anything more than what he or she has agreed to by endorsing the log. As an example, if an instructor provided an hour of stall training in a multi engine airplane to a nonmulti-engine rated pilot, then the instructor has only a duty to have provided proper and acceptable instruction on that one subject.
Weather the student then kills himself or herself in a multi engine airplane while performing stalls, is not relevant, so long as the instruction was properly given, and properly documented. The duty of the instructor is to properly instruct, and to properly document that instruction. The instructor is not inherently tied to the subsequent actions of the student.
Citationkid appears to be stating in this case that he or she flew an airplane, but was not receiving instruction. Further, citationkid appears to be stating indirectly that he or she was sole manipulator of the controls, and therefore wishes to log the time. I must suppose that this time was in aircraft for which citationkid wasn't rated, else he wouldn't need to enquire about getting the endorsement.
If this is the case, and the flying was as sole manipulator without any actual instruction being given, then requesting or receiving the endorsement of an instructor is not appropriate, nor legal.
Night_flight suggested that an instructor is only required to endorse a student's logbook when that instruction is used toward a certificate or rating, or privilege. This is incorrect. An instructor must provide an endorsement for ALL instruction given. An instructor may know or may not know weather the instruction given will eventually be used to qualify for a certificate, rating, or privilege at a later date, and does not have the discretion as to weather to sign the log or not; he or she must sign the logbook of the student for any instruction given, without exception.
