Does The CFI Have To Sign Your Book

[Citationkid]

I'm sure they do have to, but is there a FAR that says your CFI must sign off your book if your not rated in the aircraft. The reason I ask is because I've flown with friends, who are CFI's, but havn't signed off my book. It's no big deal because they are all still around and I can get them to sign it if I need to.

Thanks............

 

[bigD]

Refer to 61.51 - here's an excerpt:

(h) Logging training time. (1) A person may log training time when that person receives training from an authorized instructor in an aircraft, flight simulator, or flight training device.

(2) The training time must be logged in a logbook and must:

(i) Be endorsed in a legible manner by the authorized instructor; and

(ii) Include a description of the training given, the length of the training lesson, and the authorized instructor's signature, certificate number, and certificate expiration date. (emphasis added)


Hope this helps. Don't be afraid of the FAR/AIM!

 

[Citationkid]

Thanks I'll just have to go get them to sign it off.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Were your friends providing instruction to be counted to your pilot requirements or just letting you fly with them?

 

[Citationkid]

Well I was flying if that's what you mean. I wasn't just sitting there. I guess you could say it's towards my PPL.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Well I was flying if that's what you mean. I wasn't just sitting there. I guess you could say it's towards my PPL.

I realize you were flying. I was asking whether you were just flying or did you receive instruction?

I asked because you mentioned that this CFI was a friend, so I thought he might not be your regular instructor.

Not every time you fly, even with a CFI in the airplane, is necessarily an instructional flight. If your friend isn't your regular CFI, maybe he was just letting you fly the airplane without intending it to be an "instructional flight". There are many reasons why he might want to do it this way. CFIs only have to endorse "instruction given".

Did you (or your friend) put information in the "dual" column in your logbook. If the answer is "yes", then it should be endorsed.

 

[toneal]

ya think the CFI wants to put his signature in your logbook for dual received and then you go out and do something boneheaded and have him be somewhat liable because he did give you instruction?

I say just wait until you start training. Dont just go out and look to put hours down. Get some training.

What kind of plane was it?

 

[Night_Flight]

In my opinion, the only flights an instructor must enter into a student’s logbook are flight hours used towards a rating, and those used for currency (Check rides, landings, approaches, BFR, IPC…). It’s all at the discretion of the flight instructor.

If I go fly with a buddy who is working on his commercial certificate and we fly 150nm for a good burger, I don’t have to log anything.

For more details, check out FAR 61.51 – Pilot Logbooks.

-Night_Flight-

 

[cvsfly]

Well I was flying if that's what you mean. I wasn't just sitting there. I guess you could say it's towards my PPL.

There is no way I as a CFI would sign a students logbook "working" on a PPL this way. It doesn't sound like this was training according to any structured course or syllabus. It sounds like it was just a radome opportunity to go flying. It appears your are not of age to be close to the PPL and you are "building" time through opportunities with family and friends. More power to you, but until you finish formal training and get your license those logbook entries are just a novelty. The liability is too great on the CFI who isn't actively involved in a students structured training class.

 

[C150Commuter]

I don't see where the liability comes in. Its not like he's going to go solo the king air, and all you are signing off on is instruction, not certifying his compentency to any level. What's the harm in letting him log some of it. Much more liability if someone in a structured class that you sign off to solo crashes. we have plenty of students that are 14, they come out once a week and solo on their 16th birthday. Also, I'm not sure on this one, but if he is flying and the instructor says it isn't instruction, is that allowed? An unrated pilot flying and not recieving instruction?