Does ALPA really care about us?

[OneTuffGuy]

I have to say I am sick and tired of paying ALPA dues and it does nothing for us. Look at the three w/o PSA, Piedmont and Allegheny (sp?) they all pay ALPA dues and then ALPA went and screwed them over and negotiated a way for MESA to get the jets that one of the w/o deserved. Yeah PSA was the lucky one and got some but what about the rest of us? Every time I get paid i feel like the money taken out for ALPA dues is only going to help send my company right down the toilet while others continue to grow. Do you think ALPA national cares? Heck no they don’t, all they care about is what pilot group gives them the most money. ie the bigger you are the more income ALPA national gets. Also maybe I am the only one that thinks this but how can ALPA represent the interest of pilot groups fairly when we are all competing for the same thing? It does not make sense to me. Maybe someone else can either make sense of this or agree with me.

 

[T-Gates]

Just an honest question here, but what did ALPA national do to cause ALG and PDT not to get any of the U RJ order? I thought that was a pure management descision....

--03M

 

[OneTuffGuy]

There is a fund currently set up to collect money to hire a lawyer to sue ALPA national. I wish I had the article that was floating around, it was written by PDT pilots I believe it states how ALPA lied about LOA 83 and hide it from then and also how it violates part of there contract for U to buy RJs and have mesa fly them..... If someone has that letter or knows more about it maybe they can elaborate. What i do know is LOA 83 allowed 70 seat RJs to be flown and a wholly owned carrier 100% mainline but at a contract carrier 50/50. It is all a little confusing. I do know however that you can make anonymous contributions to this fund to help them fight ALPA.

 

[George Jetson]

Go ahead....

Sue your own union, just like some of the Continental pilots did and cost our MEC over one million bucks. Sweet.

Here is a cut and paste from another thread I posted on:

"Those of you guys who are "hooray'ing" the IBT and poo poo'ing ALPA lack the insight to realize that the individual people who negotiate are what is important and not the national union itself. Sure, ALPA has a nice toolbox...the people who insult ALPA also don't realize how ALPA works. If you have gripes with ALPA, complain to your MEC. From what I can tell, ALPA is giving my airline 110% support. Heck, the Director of Representation for ALPA is my "regional" airline's lawyer. How is that for support?"

You have issues with ALPA? Go talk to YOUR MEC. If I read correctly in the ALPA Magazine, Duane spoke out against the fact that US AIR MANAGEMENT gave the jets to Mesa and not the WO's. Have concerns about your dues? Trust me when I say that your MEC is highly subsidized by the higher paying pilot groups. If you think I am kidding, go form your own WO union and see what kind of resources you have available to you. How are you going to pay for those lawyers who will save your job when you get violated? When you get disciplined unfairly? Etc etc.

You are frustrated...go point your frustrations at the right people. MANAGEMENT. Bin Laden. ETC. The world isn't out to get you...or your airline. Like I said...suing your own union is ridiculous. What would you be suing for? What is the remedy? You want change? Go get elected to your MEC and make a difference. Apathy breeds weak MEC's.

Good luck.

GJ

 

[OneTuffGuy]

George you just do not get it do you? See you work for an airline that is not hurt be any of this obviously it is MESA. When LOA 83 was created D. Worth lied and said he had not yet signed it when acutally he already had. When U mainline announced that the 70 seat jets would go to MESA the w/o's had no idea how that was possible because they where led to believe LOA 83 was not signed yet. In fact it was signed and had been signed for a long time. Also and I wish someone could post it there is somewhere and I even think it is in the U mailin restructring agreement, and even PDT contract that ANY plane bought by U mainline must be flown by a w/o. Last time i check MESA was not a w/o and that is where the problem is. U mainline has said they will buy those 70 seat jets and lease them to MESA and that is a violation of multiple things. The problem is most people on this board seem to work for MESA and this benefits all of you so why do you care? However take a good look at the fact that by ALPA allowing LOA 83 to go through and place 70 seat jets at MESA which where purchased by U mainline, you are putting ALG and PDT in the toilet when they could of been flying those planes. Oh and by the way George Jetson I may be incorrect but it is the MECs of the w/o who are pissed about the jets being placed at MESA also.

 

[Dashcaptain]

The great thing is that Allegheny is furloughing 30 on October 1st with more to come. We have been told that we will be down to around 16 planes by the end of next year. We peaked at 47 or so last year. I would like to thank Dave and Duane for helping us out like this!!

 

[NCFlyer]

For those who want to read LOA 83 in its entirety:

Let me define a few things first. The UMEC doesn't refer to regional jets as RJs (like the rest of the world) but rather SJs. And by definition there are 3 classes of SJs:

"small SJ" - 44 seats or less
"medium SJ" - 45-50 seats
"large SJ" - 51-70 seats

Where the issue gets appalling to the wholly owned pilots is that any "large SJ" placed at a contract carried is subject to the previously agreed to J4J 50/50 seat split but if those same "large SJ's" are placed at the wholly owned carriers according to LOA 83 the mainline pilots on the Affected Pilot List (APL) would be entitled to 100% of the seats.

Of course the APL pilots will tell you that for any "large SJ" that they get at the wholly owned an equal amount of "medium SJ" can be placed at the same wholly owned with the wholly owned pilots having 100% of the seats. However they don't want to discuss any issue about a pay difference (with them getting the highest paying equipment), or discuss what happens if in fact no "medium SJ" is placed at the wholly owned while they are getting 100% of the "large SJ" seats. Which would in effect create a situation where every pilot at that wholly owned would have to give up his job to the APL pilots if only "large SJs" were operated at that wholly owned.

Now you think that can't happen!

18 months ago who would have thought that we might have to give up 50% of our jobs to a pilot not even employed by our company. Now they have worked out language where pilots not even in the employment of the wholly owned carrier could eventually have all the jobs at that carrier.

Thank you, ALPA and Mr. Woerth(less)



LOA 83 Accelerated Small Jets
ACCELERATED SMALL JETS LETTER #83

LETTER OF AGREEMENT Between US AIRWAYS, INC. and THE AIRLINE PILOTS in the service of US AIRWAYS, INC. as represented by THE AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL

ACCELERATED SMALL JETS


THIS LETTER OF AGREEMENT is made and entered into in accordance with Title II of the Railway Labor Act, as amended, by and between US Airways, Inc. (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”) and the Airline Pilots in the service of US Airways, Inc. as represented by the Air Line Pilots Association (hereinafter referred to as the “Association”).

WHEREAS the Company has identified opportunities to introduce Small Jets into the US Airways system that would generate accelerated revenue for the Company and accelerated Jets for Jobs for the US Airways pilots, and

WHEREAS these accelerated Small Jets would be financed and operated by Participating Affiliate Carriers, and

WHEREAS the operation of such Small Jets in the US Airways Express system would require certain modifications to the scope provisions of the Restructuring Agreement dated July 1, 2002,
NOW THEREFORE the parties mutually agree as follows:

1. Other than as specifically modified in this Letter of Agreement, all terms and conditions of the ALPA-US Airways Restructuring Agreement effective July 1, 2002 (hereinafter referred to as the “Restructuring Agreement”) as modified by the Supplementary Cost Reductions Letter of Agreement (L.O.A. 84), shall remain in full force and effect.

2. The terms and conditions for placement of the Small Jet code share aircraft that are authorized to be placed at other carriers and flown under the US Airways code by the provisions of Attachments B, B-1, and B-3 of the Restructuring Agreement shall be modified under the terms and conditions stated below:

A. Up to 20 “Medium SJs” (50-seat) and up to 30 “Large SJs” (70-seat CRJ-700 aircraft only) may be operated by Mesa Airlines or by any wholly owned subsidiary of Mesa Air Group or Mesa Airlines under terms agreed to between Mesa Air Group and the Association. Such aircraft shall be subject to the Jets for Jobs Protocol and must be placed into revenue operation no later than December 31, 2004.

B. Up to 25 “Large SJs” (70-seat CRJ-700 aircraft only), in addition to the 30 “Large SJs” authorized in Paragraph 2.A. above, may be placed into revenue operation by Participating Affiliate Carriers, provided that they are placed into revenue service no later than December 31, 2004, and provided further that they are subject to the Jets for Jobs Protocol (Attachment B-3 of the Restructuring Agreement). The foregoing does not preclude the placement of Large SJs in MDA in accordance with Attachment B of the Restructuring Agreement as amended by LOA 84.

C. Up to 25 “Large SJs”, specificially limited to the CRJ-700, may be placed into revenue operation at a Participating Wholly-Owned Carrier, other than MDA. All Large SJ positions created by operation of this paragraph shall be filled by US Airways pilots in accordance with the Jets for Jobs Protocol, Attachment B-3 of the Restructuring Agreement. In addition, as an exception to the Jets for Jobs Protocol, 100% of the first 25 Medium or Small Jet positions at the Wholly Owned Carrier where the above Large Small Jets are placed shall be filled by pilots of that Wholly Owned Carrier. Upon completion of the staffing of these aircraft, the 50/50 balance of hiring pursuant to the Jets for Jobs Protocol will be followed.

D. The number of “Medium SJs” and “Large SJs” in paragraphs A, B and C above are incremental to one another but are not incremental to the total number of “Medium SJs” and “Large SJs” authorized by Attachment
B of the Restructuring Agreement.

E. Up to 12 “Medium SJs” currently being operated by Chautauqua Airlines under another carrier’s code may be placed into revenue service by Chautauqua Airlines under the US Airways code, without immediately complying with the Filling of Vacancies provision of Attachment B-3 of the Restructuring Agreement, provided that such “Medium SJs” are placed into revenue operation under the US Airways code by February 29, 2004. For each of the “Medium SJs” specified in the foregoing sentence that is placed into revenue operation by Chautauqua Airlines under the US Airways code no later than such date in 2004, Chautauqua Airlines or Republic Airlines must also place into revenue service at least the same number of additional “Medium SJs”, no later than February 28, 2005 and each such additional “Medium SJ” must be staffed entirely with pilots from the APL, provided however, that no aircraft will be placed into revenue service for Republic Airlines under the US Airways code except with the approval of the Association. If the Filling of Vacancies 50% requirement (by the balance between the Medium SJs specified in the first sentence and the Medium SJs specified in the second sentence of this paragraph E.) is not achieved by February 28, 2005, the Company must either discontinue use of the number of code share aircraft or terminate the contract with Republic or Chautauqua Airlines as required to maintain the Filling of Vacancies 50% requirement.

F. Up to 5 “Medium SJs” may be placed into revenue service by Midway Airlines under the US Airways code, without immediately complying with the Filling of Vacancies provision of Attachment B-3 of the Restructuring Agreement, provided they are placed into revenue operation under the US Airways code by December 31, 2003. For each of the “Medium SJs” specified in the foregoing sentence that is placed into revenue operation under the US Airways code no later than such date in 2003, Midway Airlines must also place into revenue service at least the same number of additional “Medium SJs”, no later than December 31, 2004, and each such additional “Medium SJ” must be staffed entirely with pilots from the APL. If the Filling of Vacancies 50% requirement is not achieved by December 31, 2004, the Company must either discontinue use of the number of code share aircraft that would bring the ratio into compliance with the 50% requirement or terminate the contract with Midway Airlines.

3. MDA shall begin revenue flights on or before December 31, 2004 with no less than two Small Jets (which shall be either “Medium SJs” or “Large SJs”, or both) placed into revenue service.

4. All aircraft authorized by this Letter of Agreement shall be subject to the reporting requirements stated in Attachment B-3 of the Restructuring Agreement.

5. The Company shall seek the agreement of each participating affiliate that it will not discriminate in hiring against any current or former US Airways pilot if a reason for such discrimination is his membership in, or his activities in or on behalf of, the Association. The Company shall require that affiliate airlines recognize the rights of a pilot in respect to this clause. However, the Company shall not assume liability for the violation of the non-discrimination clause by a Participating Affiliate.

6. If it becomes evident to the Company that it or a Participating Carrier may not be able to comply with any of the above dates, the parties agree to meet and discuss alternatives acceptable to the parties.

7. This Letter of Agreement shall become effective on the date of signing and shall remain in effect concurrent with the Restructuring Agreement.

 

[727RedTails]

Is it a factor that U would have a harder time coming up with the financing and capital requirements to by the RJ's, thus limiting the ability for the wholly owned to operate the a/c. Don't get me wrong I don't like whats happening, but this could have been a reason.

 

[OneTuffGuy]

727RedTails that is the problem U mainline still is paying for the 70 seat RJs but have said they will lease them to MESA.

 

[Southbound1313]

Unions have flaws and sometime make unwise, unwanted agreements but I would not like to work without one.

 

[bud5437]

ALPA

Gentlemen, I have been an airline pilot for 36 years. About 10 years ago, I discovered ALPA isn't looking out for our profession. It is a big business and is only interested in the status quo. I have included this document which shows ALPA executive compensation. This is where your dues are going. I would recommend any organizatio other then ALPA.
AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL

39TH REGULAR BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING

October 21-25, 2002





SUBJECT

National Officer Compensation and Expense Allowance


SOURCE

Constitutional Requirement


Distribution authorized by: _______________________________

Delegate Committee Chairman



DELEGATE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION



RESOLUTION #1


PRESIDENTIAL COMPENSATION



WHEREAS the 1970 Board of Directors adopted a policy of a fixed formula for calculating Presidential compensation which has been continued since that date with modifications and additions deemed appropriate by the Board of Directors in 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986, 1990, 1994 and 1998,



THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Directors policy on Presidential compensation be reaffirmed with the following modifications. The allowances and allocations described herein shall take effect on January 1, 2003 in accordance with the following:



A. DIRECT COMPENSATION



Presidential compensation based upon the average book rates of the three highest paying Captain rates of the three highest paying ALPA carriers, on the opening day of each regular Board of Directors meeting, 1/2 day plus 1/2 night, average maximum contract hours for the applicable rates shall be as follows:

Effective January 1, 2003:



(1)
(a) Total Maximum Annual Gross Yield *

$295,816


($298.19/hr at 82.67 hours per month)









(b) Plus, if applicable, a Monthly Adjustment to provide the minimum pay equal to the highest paying equipment the President is entitled to hold in accordance with his system seniority on his airline









$0


Subtotal

$295,816







* To be recalculated upon any change in the Captain hourly rates or maximum contract hours for the three highest paying ALPA carriers






(2)
Presidential Override at 26% of (1)

$76,912







Total Base Compensation

$372,728






(3)
National Officer Service Allowance in 2003*

$40,000


Total of Presidential Compensation and National Officer Service Allowance



$412,728







* Refer to paragraph C for National Officer Service Allowance provisions after 2003.



(4)
In the event the Presidential compensation in A(1) is less than Flight Pay Loss calculated for officer compensation for the offices of First Vice President, Vice President-Administration/ Secretary, or Vice President-Finance/ Treasurer the higher amount shall be used for line A(1) of the Presidential compensation calculation above.







B. PENSION AND FRINGE BENEFITS



1. The President shall be eligible to participate and entitled to receive, in addition to Total Base Compensation, benefits from any pension, medical, disability or other welfare plan of benefits sponsored by ALPA or provided to ALPA bargaining unit or non-bargaining unit staff as the Vice President-Finance/Treasurer shall determine, provided further that the Vice President-Finance/Treasurer, at his or her discretion, in coordination with the 401K plan, for each calendar year or portion thereof that the President has served in office, shall provide for a single premium annuity commencing at age 55 or termination of office, whichever is later, providing a benefit equal to 5% for each such year, up to a maximum of 60%, applied to the Total Base Compensation as computed in paragraph A above.



2. Should the sum of retirement benefits from the air carrier and ALPA result in the President's retirement being less than that he or she would have received at his or her own airline had he or she not served as President, the Executive Board will adjust the retirement benefit accordingly.


C. NATIONAL OFFICER SERVICE ALLOWANCE



The President shall receive a National Officer Service Allowance of $40,000 annually effective January 1, 2003. Beginning in 2004, the annual National Officer Service Allowance shall be increased by an amount equal to the rate of growth in the Consumer Price Index (CPI-U) in the preceding year times the Allowance in the previous year. This allowance, together with all costs associated with the ALPA-provided automobile, shall be reported to federal, state, and local authorities as taxable income and shall be made available to the President in such manner as the President may request. The National Officer Service Allowance shall be considered as provision for reimbursement of extraordinary expenses, both personal and business, associated with service in an ALPA National Officer position and shall not be subject to specific accountability by the President.



RESOLUTION #2



FIRST VICE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT-ADMINISTRATION/
SECRETARY, AND VICE PRESIDENT-FINANCE/TREASURER COMPENSATION



WHEREAS the Board of Directors, in 1970, adopted a policy of reimbursement for Flight Pay Loss and expenses plus an allowance for the First Vice President, Vice President-Administration/Secretary and Vice President-Finance/Treasurer, and



WHEREAS said policy has been reaffirmed and continued by the Board of Directors in 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986, 1990, 1994 and 1998, and



WHEREAS certain modifications to this policy are deemed appropriate by the 2002 Board of Directors,



THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that compensation for the First Vice President, the Vice President-Administration/Secretary, and the Vice President-Finance/Treasurer shall take effect on January 1, 2003 in accordance with the following:



A. DIRECT COMPENSATION



1. The policy of reimbursement for Flight Pay Loss shall be continued as basic compensation for the office of First Vice President, Vice President-Administration/Secretary, and Vice President-Finance/Treasurer, who shall be compensated at the rate of the highest paying equipment each is entitled to hold in accordance with his or her system seniority on his or her airline.



2. Flight Pay Loss shall be fixed at the maximum allowable flight time per month, 1/2 day - 1/2 night.



B. MINIMUM DIRECT COMPENSATION



1. No officer elected to any of the three above named offices shall receive less than a minimum of $11,200 per month as basic compensation, not including allowances.



2. Subject to paragraph B.3. below, in no event (other than the officer's voluntary election to change his or her airline status) shall the total of Flight Pay Loss or basic compensation be less than the amount the officer is receiving as of January 1, 2003.



3. An Incumbent First Vice-President, Vice-President Administration/Secretary, or Vice-President Finance/Treasurer who becomes a Retired Member during his or her term of office and remains in office for the remainder of his or her term under the provisions of Article XI, Section 1. A, Article XII, Section 1. A, or Article XIII, Section 1. A of the Constitution and By-Laws, as applicable, shall receive compensation while in Retired status for the remainder of his or her term equal to the difference between what the officer earned, on average, during the six months immediately preceding becoming a Retired Member and the airline funded retirement income he or she is entitled to receive.



4. The First Vice-President, Vice President-Administration/
Secretary, and Vice President-Finance/Treasurer shall not be eligible to participate in nor are they entitled to receive benefits from any pension, medical, disability or other welfare plan of benefits provided to ALPA bargaining unit or non-bargaining unit staff.



5. The Executive Council shall resolve any question of interpretation or application of these compensation and benefit provisions to an individual officer, including, as appropriate, the acquisition of benefits, other than ALPA employee benefits, for an officer who becomes a Retired Member during his or her term in office and remains in office for the remainder of his or her term under the provisions of Article XI, Section 1.A, Article XII, Section 1.A, or Article XIII, Section 1.A of the Constitution and By-Laws.



C. NATIONAL OFFICER SERVICE ALLOWANCE



Each officer shall be granted a National Officer Service Allowance as follows:



EFFECTIVE DATE 1/1/03



For the First Vice President

$40,000

For the Vice President-Administration/Secretary

$40,000

For the Vice President-Finance/Treasurer

$40,000

 

[bud5437]

continuation of compensation

More:


RESOLUTION #3


REVIEW OF RETIRED MEMBER NATIONAL OFFICER BENEFITS



RESOLVED that for National Officers that took office effective January 1, 1999, the Executive Council shall resolve, as appropriate, the acquisition of benefits, other than ALPA employee benefits, for an officer who becomes or became a Retired Member during his or her term in office and remains in office for the remainder of his or her term under the provisions of Article XI, Section 1.A, Article XII, Section 1.A, or Article XIII, Section 1.A of the Constitution and By-Laws.



RESOLUTION #4


OFFICER EXPENSE ARRANGEMENTS



RESOLVED that the Board of Directors approve continuation of the existing Dislocation Allowance/Relocation Allowance amounts at the current level for officers elected for the terms commencing January 1, 2003, as follows:



1. In addition to the National Officer Service Allowance, each National Officer may be reimbursed for expenses associated with the provision of hospitality to official guests of the Association, including ALPA members engaged in Association activities, either in the Washington, DC area or in such other location as this activity may occur. Such reimbursement shall be subject to documentation in accordance with standard ALPA expense reimbursement procedures. To facilitate this process, each National Officer shall be provided a corporate credit card to be used for payment of appropriate business expenses for travel, meals, entertainment, and lodging associated with ALPA-related travel outside the Washington, DC area, and provision of appropriate hospitality to official ALPA guests and members on Association business in any location.



2. Upon election to a term of office, each officer shall be eligible for a National Officer Relocation Allowance or the choice of either (a) a National Officer Dislocation Allowance in accordance with the provisions of this policy, or (b) Reimbursement of Lodging, Meals, Travel and Other Incidental Expenses under ALPA Policy as described below. The National Officer shall elect either the National Officer Dislocation Allowance or ALPA Expense Reimbursement policy, as defined herein, on an annual basis.



3. a. The National Officer Relocation Allowance shall provide full reimbursement of actual relocation and related expenses in accordance with the applicable Association policy then in effect. Upon completion of service in one or more consecutive terms of office in a National Officer position (not necessarily the same position), or earlier, if approved by the Special Compensation Review Committee, each officer who has received a National Officer Relocation Allowance during a term of office (including a prior consecutive term of office) shall be eligible for an additional National Officer Relocation Allowance to provide full reimbursement for actual relocation and related expenses to any location in the U.S., Canada, or their territories and possessions. No National Officer shall receive more than one relocation allowance and one additional relocation allowance in connection with one or more consecutive terms of office.



b. A National Officer Relocation Allowance shall not be paid until the related claim of entitlement has been reviewed and approved by the Special Compensation Review Committee. Any claim which the Special Compensation Review Committee is unable to resolve shall be referred to the Executive Board for final resolution.



4. Each ALPA National Officer who maintains a primary residence outside the Washington, DC area, and who has not received a relocation allowance, shall be eligible to receive a National Officer Dislocation Allowance, in accordance with the following terms and conditions:



a. The amount of the National Officer Dislocation Allowance for officers other than the President and for the President for 2003 shall be as follows (including provision for tax liabilities):





President Other Officers





Incumbent
New
Incumbent
New



Housing
$4,500
$5,750
$3,250
$4,100



Meals
1,500
1,500
1,500
1,500



Travel & Incidental
1,500
1,500
1,500
1,500










Total Monthly Allowance
$7,500
$8,750
$6,250
$7,100





b. For the purpose of the National Officer Dislocation Allowance only, an Incumbent Officer is any National Officer elected for a term commencing January 1, 2003 who was also elected as a National Officer for a term commencing January 1, 1999.



c. The National Officer Dislocation Allowance provided herein shall be deemed sufficient to compensate the respective officer for appropriate housing, meals, and incidental expenses while in the Washington, DC area, and transportation between his/her primary residence outside the Washington, DC area and Washington, DC, together with applicable personal income tax liabilities.



d. The National Officer Dislocation Allowance may be paid to an eligible officer as a lump sum, in an amount not to exceed the unused portion of the annual aggregate amount of the allowance, on a calendar year basis, subject to a specific written request by the officer setting forth the purpose for such request, and review of this request by the Special Compensation Review Committee. In the event an officer leaves office prior to completion of his/her term, any accelerated portion of the National Officer Dislocation Allowance shall be repaid to the Association on a pro-rata basis.



e. No portion of a National Officer Dislocation Allowance shall be paid until the related claim of entitlement has been reviewed and approved by the Special Compensation Review Committee. Continuing entitlement to the National Officer Dislocation Allowance shall be reviewed at least annually by this Committee. Any claim which the Special Compensation Review Committee is unable to resolve shall be referred to the Executive Board for final resolution.



f. Accelerated payment of a National Officer Dislocation Allowance shall not be paid until the related request has been reviewed and approved by the Special Compensation Review Committee. Any request which the Special Compensation Review Committee is unable to resolve shall be referred to the Executive Board for final resolution.



g. The amount of the National Officer Dislocation Allowance may be revised by the Board of Directors, based upon the recommendations of the Special Compensation Review Committee or the Executive Board.



5. Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions which preclude a National Officer who has received a National Officer Dislocation Allowance from receiving a National Officer Relocation Allowance and vice versa, the Special Compensation Review Committee may consider and approve a request of a National Officer to receive such payment, provided that the total amount to be paid to such National Officer in connection with a term of office shall not exceed the total amount which the National Officer would have received in monthly payments of the National Officer Dislocation Allowance. Any such request which the Special Compensation Review Committee is unable to resolve shall be referred to the Executive Board for final resolution.



6. If a National Officer selects Reimbursement of Lodging, Meals, Travel and Other Incidental Expenses Under ALPA Policy, the following policies from the ALPA Administrative Manual shall apply:



a. Expense Reimbursement Procedure (Section 60, Part 2, T). Daily Expense Forms must be approved by another National Officer.



b. Taxi Cab Fares and Receipts (Section 60, Part 2, V).



c. Meals and Lodging (Section 60, Part 2, Y). With respect to the Interpretation of the lodging policy, the President shall be reimbursed for up to a three bedroom, two bath unit and the other officers for up to a two bedroom, two bath unit. National Officers may be reimbursed for their monthly rental or mortgage payments.



d. Meals and Travel Expenses – Pilots Employed by Canadian Air Carriers (Section 60, Part 2, Z).



e. Tipping (Section 60, Part 2, AA).



f. Travel Tickets (Section 60, Part 2, QQ).



g. Travel Services (Section 60, Part 2, RR).



h. Income Tax Gross Up Payments (Section 60, Part 2, NNN).



RESOLUTION #5


NATIONAL OFFICER AUTOMOBILES



WHEREAS automobiles are required by the National Officers to fulfill the duties of their offices,



THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that for officers elected for the terms commencing January 1, 2003, ALPA shall obtain a new Buick Park Avenue four door sedan (or similar cost American/North American made automobile) for the use of the First Vice President, Vice President Administration/
Secretary, and Vice President Finance/Treasurer during their four-year term of office. All costs for these automobiles including acquisition costs (lease or purchase), maintenance, insurance, tags and vehicle-related taxes are to be paid by the Association. ALPA shall also reimburse fuel expense related to business use, and



BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that ALPA shall obtain a new Lincoln LS (or similar cost American/North American made automobile) for the use of the President for a two-year period to be replaced with a similar vehicle for the subsequent two years of the term of office of the President. All costs for this automobile including acquisition costs (lease or purchase), maintenance, insurance, tags and vehicle-related taxes are to be paid by the Association.

 

[Catbird]

bud5437's summary is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. The accounting practices at National and the locals are on par with Enron, Worldcom and Robert Vesco Enterprises. When ever a "Accounting Omission" is discovered a adjustment is made and the stealing continues. Its big business, the Royalty at Alpa National will continue stealing from the moron's who believe good always overcomes injustice. If DALPA departs and H Ford wins his lawsuit it might flush Duane Worthless and Chris Beebe down the toilet with the horses&it which they and there 2 predecessors have been spewing out for years. As it stands today, Alpa is analogues to a Heroine addict working at a Pharmaceutical Warehouse as the Night-watchman. The only way it will change is if the junkie dies or the Warehouse burns down. I don't believe the Royalty will die unless it's from choking on a Liver Pate' snack or drowning in the surf at Bal the Harbor Resort while hung over from a vigorous negotiation session at the Gold Club during a BOD soirée.

 

[climbhappy]

finall, someone exposes facts that spell it out. as for allegany pilots , it totally sucks. i think this profession is going to become a very undesirable career field.

the pay sux, there is no regulation with respect to new hire practices.

you'd think a national union would prevent regional jet operators from hiring 300 hour wonders who can't talk on the radio properly

that sums it up, i get to see 22 year old suzy rottencrotch sitting in the right seat on my way home every week.

 

[Publishers]

NO

NO is the answer to your question

 

[mesaba2425]

Nope. The management at ALPA is no different than the management at the airlines (or any other company for that matter) that everyone complains about. It's all about the Benjamins baby.

 

[surplus1]

If I'm not mistaken I believe that the "salary" of the President of the United States is $400,000.00 per annum.

From the bud5437 summary it appears that the President of the ALPA receives more.

As someone else mentiond, what you've seen really IS the "tip of the iceberg."

I especially like the part about the compensation of "officers" who retire (as airline pilots) but continue to serve as "National Officers". Question for bud5437: Is that the Mugger clause?

I'm a bit surprised that the ALPA Prez only gets a Lincoln LS. Wonder why it wasn't, at the very least, a Lincoln Aviator (Kitty Hawk Edition).

bud5437 - How about some sequels? Might as well tell it all.

Suggestions (for starters):

a) Compensation & perks of the Executive Administrator

b) Compensation & perks of the EVP's.

b) Compensation of the top staff attorneys .

d) Compensation of the General Manager.

PS. bud5437, isn't it a little ironic that the dudes that signed off on the loss of your pension are now serving as president and vice president - finance/treasurer respectively?

 

[Slave2theGrind]

CAN ANYONE SAY "CONFLICT OF INTEREST" How can ALPA represent both sides of a fight.? It cant be done. This is why YOUR own PILOT group should represent ITSELF, insted of taking the "ready to eat" ALPA BS.

 

[B190Captain]

Federal Court OK's Lawsuit Against Pilots' Union,
Thwarts Union Effort to Preserve Separate Levels of Representation;
Recommends Pilots Seek Class-Action Status

June 25, Cincinnati-- Thwarting plans of the Air Line Pilots Association [ALPA] to continue using "scope" clauses of collective bargaining agreements to create a lower caste of ALPA member, a federal court permitted claims alleging that ALPA breached its duty of fair representation ["DFR"] to go forward. The decision will allow pilots at Comair, Inc., a Delta subsidiary, to make their case that ALPA maintains two levels of representation-- one for the higher-paid "mainline" pilots at such carriers as Delta, and a lower level of representation for pilots at "regional" airlines.

In a lengthy decision in Ford v. Air Line Pilots Association, International, Judge I. Leo Glasser of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York upheld the right of hundreds of Comair pilots to sue their union for working against their interests.

Although Judge Glasser dismissed a range of side claims, the main thrust of the lawsuit, dealing with the duty of fair representation, was allowed to go forward. Specifically, the claim that prevailed against ALPA's motion to dismiss was the one in which plaintiffs sought a myriad of injunctive relief to prevent ALPA from negotiating Delta collective bargaining agreements that wield economic harm upon ALPA's Comair constituency. The claim that was upheld alleges that ALPA uses the scope clause of the Delta collective bargaining agreement as a remote control device to limit flying at Comair, thus limiting the career growth and earning potential of Comair pilots. Judge Glasser's decision is believed to be the first time that a federal court has recognized that ALPA has a potential conflict of interest in representing both "mainline" and "regional" pilots.


A similar lawsuit was filed against ALPA last month by pilots at Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Inc. [ASA]. It is as yet unclear how the court's ruling will impact current bargaining between Delta and its pilots, but Captain Daniel Ford, President of the umbrella organization that is coordinating the Comair and ASA lawsuits, said the decision "ushers in a new era in union representation of pilots at so-called "regional" carriers. Ford, who heads the Regional Jet Defense Coalition, said, "ALPA is going to have to sit up and take notice that it is accountable to all its members and can no longer sacrifice its constituents at smaller carriers to appease its large carrier membership."

Judge Glasser, in a 39-page decision, wrote, "Plaintiffs have sufficiently stated a claim that ALPA breached its duty of fair representation by allegedly negotiating contracts that arbitrarily favor the Delta pilots over the Comair pilots." The Court specifically found invalid ALPA's insistence that the dispute between it and its Comair members should be relegated to the National Mediation Board, which has little if any power to address the dispute.

The Judge also permitted more than 300 additional Comair pilots to join the lawsuit, but strongly suggested that the case be converted into a class action on behalf of all Comair pilots. The Court directed the parties to address that issue within 30 days.

Anyone heard more about this????