Do you think YOUR airline's mgmt. is watching this???

[Kugelblitz]

Is this really all that different from outsourcing domestic flying to regional airlines? How could this not have happened? It is the next inevitable evolution in the degradation of a position despised by a management culture that only thinks it should make more than a pauper's wage.

As we continue to lose our footing in our legal right to represent ourselves (Open Skies) and make a reasonable wage commensurate with the responsibilties of our tasks, wages and salaries will suffer. Some of this is due to short-sightedness on our parts, namely, people trying to hurry and get on with a major by grabbing large amounts of jet time for low wages and work rules at regionals/commuters with no concern about the impact this has on others or their own future by eliminating mainline opportunities.

The principle issue is with the selling out of the middle class by our government in a bi-partison fashion over the last 25-30 years. I see no reason for hope.

 

[crashpad]

Is this move significant enough to cause additional UAL pilots to be furloughed?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

...."whatever, who cares, at least I'm still flying."

Probably what many of the Midwest pilots said/thought, and look at them now.

More important question for me is, what are the UAL pilots going to do about this?

 

[instructordude]

Management reserves the right to run a business and make money period!

 

[Minimaniac]

This is different. While UAL outsources flying to other airlines, at no point have pilots been brought in to fly a United Airlines-owned aircraft while UAL pilots are on furlough. This is not an "operated by" deal. This is direct street hiring while pilots are on furlough.

 

[Hutchman]

Is this move significant enough to cause additional UAL pilots to be furloughed?

I think that UAL does not operate this route, so I guess no MORE furloughs......Till they take some more routes.

 

[Hutchman]

More important question for me is, what are the UAL pilots going to do about this?

Nothing. Their scope section was gutted in BK.

 

[nwaredtail]

What do you consider "senior" at Un

ited

Anyone that voted for the worst contract to save the pension, who foolishly thought it would work. AKA , USAirways.

and why are the "junior" guys letting the senior put the screws to them?

Percentages. Senior guys vote yes to save pension, senior F/O's get brainwashed just enough and junior folks don't have the numbers to stop it. Same thing happened at NWA.

 

[ultrarunner]

Aer Lingus has pilots on furlough?

 

[bluefin]

How many UAL flights a day are outsourced? This is no different!

Yes it is, this is affecting the "senior" pilots, the international wide bodies, not the fresh, brand spanking new guys. This is hitting them in the gut.