Do UPS or Fedex have travel benefits?

[capt. megadeth]

However, I seriously doubt anyone would ever decide whether to pursue an airline or not based on how good or bad those travel benefits are - but it’s always nice to know what’s out there.

Uh, I don't know about that. I went on a trip with my fiancee. His FO's dad is a captain at FedEx. I said "Sweet! You are golden, eh?" He said "I don't want to go to FedEx, I want to go to United." I said "Why?" He said "Well, FedEx doesn't really offer any pass benefits." And....he was NOT joking.

I almost fell out of my chair!

 

[AV80R]

Uh, I don't know about that. I went on a trip with my fiancee. His FO's dad is a captain at FedEx. I said "Sweet! You are golden, eh?" He said "I don't want to go to FedEx, I want to go to United." I said "Why?" He said "Well, FedEx doesn't really offer any pass benefits." And....he was NOT joking.

I almost fell out of my chair!

Wow, I bet his dad is really proud of his son! :erm: I mean who wouldn't pick standby travel benefits over hard currency you can buy real tickets for, huh?

Yeah, I guess he didn’t get that memo – you know the one about furloughs, lost pensions, etc. Well, at least we know that he must really love people, right? :laugh:

 

[AV80R]

Other than jumpseating, can UPS ... Pilots (and family members) get any type of travel benefits on other airlines (i.e., ID90s or Zed Fares).

Found some info...

American Trans Air: $30.00 space available one way domestic travel and $60.00 space available round trip domestic travel; $100.00 space available round trip to Cancun, San Juan, and Grand Cayman; $100 space available round trip to Hawaii if booked through Phoenix. Each ticket will carry the new airline security fee ($2.50 per segment to a maximum of $10) along with a $6 processing fee. These fees are the responsibility of the passenger and will be included with each purchase. No blackout dates. Code-Share flights with Southwest are not eligible.

Cayman Airways: ID90 round trip space available from Orlando, Tampa, Miami or Houston. Authorization is issued at the carrier's discretion. Exact pricing cannot be given until authorization for travel is issued. Authorization for travel will not be received until the day prior to travel. Restrictions 4 days before and after major US holidays.

Delta Global Fare: Global Fare I - $375.00 round trip space available from any US Delta gateway city to Europe or Central/South America. Global Fare II - $450.00 round trip space available from any US Delta gateway city to Asia or Middle East. Parents add $100. Lap children under the age of 2 will be charged 10% of the base plus $30.00 taxes.

Korean Air : Space Available travel with the Morning Calm Fare as follows:
IAD/SEL/IAD, DFW/SEL/DFW, ORD/SEL/ORD - $330
NYC/SEL/NYC, ATL/SEL/ATL, YTO/SEL/YTO - $330
HNL/SEL/HNL, LAX/TYO/LAX - $260
LAX/SEL/LAX, SFO/SEL/SFO, ANC/SEL/ANC - $300
YVR/SEL/YVR, LAX/SAO/LAX (SAO/LAX/SAO) - $300
USA to Southeast Asia - Add $150
Southeast Asia: MNL,HKG,BKK,SIN,KUL,PEK,TAO,SHE,TSN,BOM
One-way fare is one-half of fare shown above.
Children between ages 2 and 12 years apply 75% of above fares.
Employee's parents eligible with surcharge of $100.
Children under age 2 apply 10% of above fares.
Existing taxes must be added to above fares.

Scenic Airlines: Space Available rates to Grand Canyon, MonumentValley and BryceCanyon from LAS. Discounted rates per person are as follows: One-way travel $25.00, Round-trip travel $50.00, Highlights Air Tour $25.00, Freedom Tour $50.00, Grand Deluxe Tour $60.00, Indian Adventure Tour $50.00, Monument Valley Grand Excursion $100.00, and Bryce and Grand Canyon Deluxe Tour $80.00.

Southwest Airlines: $50.00 round trip space available and $25.00 one-way space available on scheduled service. Each ticket will carry the new airline security fee ($3.00 per segment to a maximum of $12) along with a $6 processing fee. These fees are the responsibility of the passenger and will be included with each purchase. Purchase price will vary depending on the number of segments flown.

Martinair Holland: $204.00 round trip space available per person to Amsterdam.
$317.00 round trip space available per person to Colombo, Sri Lanka or Male, Maldives
$128.80 one way space available per person from Miami to San Jose, Costa Rica
$133.30 one way space available per person from San Jose, Costa Rica to Miami

South African Airways: Positive space round-trip on SAA’s two USA gateways (JFK or ATL) and domestic South African Services for $550.00. This fare is subject to taxes. (Travel on regional services, SAA Airlink and SAA Air Express are not included.) Add-on one way fares within South Africa are as follows:
Johannesburg to - Cape Town $100.00
- Durban $60.00
- East London $80.00
- George $100.00
- Nairobi $100.00
Cape Town to - Durban $100.00
- Port Elizabeth $80.00
Durban to - Port Elizabeth $80.00

Caesar Hotels/Airway Vacations: Travel packages – hotel and airfare combinations; various locations and cruises including Europe, Caribbean, and the Orient.

Open Skies: Travel packages – hotel and airfare combinations; various locations in the Caribbean and Europe.

 

[PreContact]

AV8OR - Where is that travel info listed? Thanks

 

[AV80R]

AV8OR - Where is that travel info listed? Thanks

Log in to the Flightops page; click on Travel/Hotel link (on the left). Select the Pass Bureau Information link.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Wow, I bet his dad is really proud of his son! :erm: I mean who wouldn't pick standby travel benefits over hard currency you can buy real tickets for, huh?

Yeah, I guess he didn’t get that memo – you know the one about furloughs, lost pensions, etc. Well, at least we know that he must really love people, right? :laugh:

Well, the good news is is that's one less person my honey has to compete with.

 

[Archie Bunker]

Wow, I bet his dad is really proud of his son! :erm: I mean who wouldn't pick standby travel benefits over hard currency you can buy real tickets for, huh?

Yeah, I guess he didn’t get that memo – you know the one about furloughs, lost pensions, etc. Well, at least we know that he must really love people, right? :laugh:

AV8OR, you silver tongued bast*rd.....I would have just called the guy a clueless idiot, but you said it so much nicer.

 

[AV80R]

Well, the good news is is that's one less person my honey has to compete with.

True that, as a matter of fact maybe we should start a "cargo sux campaign!" until all of our friends get hired?

AV8OR, you silver tongued bast*rd.....I would have just called the guy a clueless idiot, but you said it so much nicer.

Silver tongued, huh? Well, thank you very much, I’m still working on getting it gold plated. :laugh:

 

[belchfire]

Well, the good news is is that's one less person my honey has to compete with.

True that, as a matter of fact maybe we should start a "cargo sux campaign!" until all of our friends get hired?

Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all...hehehehe Hey Y'all, Delta is hiring!!!

 

[capt. megadeth]

True that, as a matter of fact maybe we should start a "cargo sux campaign!" until all of our friends get hired?

. :laugh:

I think that's a GREAT idea!

 

[GSXR600]

Hi!

There's no "perfect" flying job for me, and this is one of the reasons.

Do any of those airlines fly into my town?

SWA, ATA, Frontier, AirTran and JetBlue-No.

Even UPS and FEX-No.
What about UPS or FEX feeder airlines? Nope. Nada. Nothing.

Too bad for me.

cliff
ILN

where in the hell do u live then?? that no airline flies there!!!!!

 

[GSXR600]

Who cares?

Dude, if you're lucky enough to get on with UPS or FedEx, you can afford to buy airline tickets with the extra millions you will earn over your lifetime.

You are 100% correct on this one. I just can’t believe that someone working for these companies can spare $200 bucks to buy a positive space ticket to travel their love ones.
Wow unreal!!!!!!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

AA, UAL, NWA, DAL, Midwest and Allegient fly to where I live.

If UPS/FedEx are both great jobs otherwise, but one has much better travel benefits, then that one is a better job, because my family travels a lot.

cliff
YIP

 

[AV80R]

...If UPS/FedEx are both great jobs otherwise, but one has much better travel benefits, then that one is a better job, because my family travels a lot...

Cliff, my family and I travel a lot as well but I just buy them tickets. I'm not sure where you work but lets just do some simple math here...

- if you make an extra $1,000 a month at brand X versus brand Y you can spend that money on tickets for your loved ones if you want. I just bought two tickets on CAL from HOU to LGW (London - Gatwick) and back and it cost me ~$690 a person. Since I have so many 'miles' on my CAL frequent miles program (because of dead heading the company sends me on) we'll probably be upgraded to business class, at least we were in the past.

- So, if I make that extra thousand bucks a month my fiancé and I can "afford' at least one trip like that every two months.

My point is the "travel benefits" seem to be like the new form of Food Stamps where some people won't take a better paying job because they are afraid they'll lose their food stamps benefits.

C'mon, it's really nice NOT to be a stand-by passenger.:beer:

 

[Beetle007]

... some people won't take a better paying job because they are afraid they'll lose their food stamps benefits.

C'mon, it's really nice NOT to be a stand-by passenger.

I thought the same thing when I left my previous job (With great travel benefits), for a job with less travel benefits. I regret losing the great travel benefits.

If you only like traveling domestically, then travel benefits don't mean much. It is better to buy a ticket. But my wife and I used to take 3 or 4 international trips a year (Luckily we always got business class when traveling internationally). Basically we would take 3 or 4 day weekends and go somewhere like Tokyo, London, Germany, Amsterdam etc… for a couple hundred bucks. It kept my wife happy because she always looked forward to where she could visit next for the price of one or two nights in a hotel.

 

[GSXR600]

Cliff, my family and I travel a lot as well but I just buy them tickets. I'm not sure where you work but lets just do some simple math here...

- if you make an extra $1,000 a month at brand X versus brand Y you can spend that money on tickets for your loved ones if you want. I just bought two tickets on CAL from HOU to LGW (London - Gatwick) and back and it cost me ~$690 a person. Since I have so many 'miles' on my CAL frequent miles program (because of dead heading the company sends me on) we'll probably be upgraded to business class, at least we were in the past.

- So, if I make that extra thousand bucks a month my fiancé and I can "afford' at least one trip like that every two months.

My point is the "travel benefits" seem to be like the new form of Food Stamps where some people won't take a better paying job because they are afraid they'll lose their food stamps benefits.

C'mon, it's really nice NOT to be a stand-by passenger.:beer:

AMEN BROTHAAAA!!!!!

THE SMARTEST THING A EVER SAID

 

[capt. megadeth]

Travel benefits are great!

I think everyone should stop applying at FedEx and UPS because we don't really have travel benefits.

Please please pretty please? So my honey can have no competition? Puhhhhhhleeeeease? With sugar on top.

I love travel benefits! :nuts:

 

[AV80R]

...I thought the same thing when I left my previous job (With great travel benefits), for a job with less travel benefits. I regret losing the great travel benefits...

I think you truly missed my point - I believe no one should ever "stay content" at their current job because "at least we have travel benefits”.

In my analogy, if I made an extra $1,000 a month at brand X versus brand Y I could afford 2 "positive space" tickets to London 6 times a year. That's if I make an extra $1,000. I make much more than an extra $1,000.

My whole point was - do not use "travel benefits" to compare airlines when one pays much more than the other but has fewer travel benefits. It's akin to someone choosing a less paying job because otherwise he/she would lose the food stamps. Or someone including per diem into the yearly income...If two airlines pay about the same (looks like in your case) but one has the travel benefits and one does not - it's a different story...

So to summarize, no one says travel benefits are not cool, but at least compare apples to apples....It's an awesome feeling to have "real" tickets and not having to hope for some empty seats so you can make the flight...Every time I used standby tickets with my family I felt like I was "begging" the gate agents for a ride...It's nice not to have to do that anymore...Oh, and we can fly as frequently as we want because we can afford it now, oh and did I mention the A and the B fund, the health insurance, etc? Like I said - don't stare blindly at the standby passes or you might miss the real benefits...


Ooops, I screwed up again - Mega is right, I miss my travel benefits...:laugh:

 

[Beetle007]

AV80R -

I understand what you are saying. For most people travel benefits don't matter that much and it is usually best to by positive space tickets.

But - it is never more economical to purchase international business class tickets, if you like to travel more than once or twice a year. Thats what my wife got used to at my previous airline. We always looked for flights with open business class, and she never once sat in coach. I probably saved between 40 to 70K a year at my previous airline due to my travel benefits. For example, we took at trip to Tokyo for two days because we had a 4 day weekend. Two roundtrip business class tickets to Tokyo would have cost me 16 thousand. With income taxes, I would have to earn an extra 20+ thousand a year just to pay for that one weekend.

What I am saying, is that travel benefits matter to some more than others.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Beetle007:

Exactly.

cliff
YIP