do mesa employees even care?

[Elusive Napkin]

Hey, anyone got a picture of the Mesa windbreaker. I haven't actually seen one. It would humor me...

 

[Terrain Terrain]

Thank you for interjecting a fact -- a rarity on flightinfo.

If you want to see something interesting start counting the tatoos on all the Express carriers' FAs.................

tattoo on the lower back mise well be a bullseye

 

[JohnnyP]

...

I usually refrain from coming out and unloading on some other company, person, etc, but I cant help myself on this one, it was too good. I was pretty shocked at what I saw. I was traveling yesterday evening out of dulles, D14, (i had a plane ticket purchased for me, not nonrev/JS'ing, etc), and saw a bunch of MESA FA's hanging around the gate area, kinda looked like some kinda newhire orientation. (im pretty sure it was MESA, they all had the blue cloud badges). It brought regional airline sloppiness to a whole new level for me. These "ladies" looked just about as trashy as I have yet to see in this industry. They looked like a group of 15 year old's hanging out at a bowling alley, all proudly displaying ID badges (ripped, holey jeans, low cut hooker shirts, the works). Dont get me wrong, PDT had its share of sloppy garbage just like everyone else, but this was some busch league stuff.

 

[Sig]

You said busch...

 

[Jack Mehoff]

I usually refrain from coming out and unloading on some other company, person, etc, but I cant help myself on this one, it was too good. I was pretty shocked at what I saw. I was traveling yesterday evening out of dulles, D14, (i had a plane ticket purchased for me, not nonrev/JS'ing, etc), and saw a bunch of MESA FA's hanging around the gate area, kinda looked like some kinda newhire orientation. (im pretty sure it was MESA, they all had the blue cloud badges). It brought regional airline sloppiness to a whole new level for me. These "ladies" looked just about as trashy as I have yet to see in this industry. They looked like a group of 15 year old's hanging out at a bowling alley, all proudly displaying ID badges (ripped, holey jeans, low cut hooker shirts, the works). Dont get me wrong, PDT had its share of sloppy garbage just like everyone else, but this was some busch league stuff.

did they have the bodies to pull off the low cut stuff, or were they the fat chicks in skinny girl cloths with rolls hanging out? I am sick of seeing fatties trying to pull off the low/tight look! If they were hot then just enjoy the view man! Don't be a hater, unless you are so into being the pilot that you forgot about girls.

 

[jayspilot]

Airways is strict, but the best for international offline jumpseating. I remember many times jumping on them for a free ride to mexico or the carribean and having to stuff a nice pair of clothes in my suit case for the trip home. Getting down there was easy b/c I just wore the clothes, but I always felt bad for the people sitting near me because my clothes were the same ones I wore a week earlier and spent the time inbetween stuffed in my suit case in some smelly cheap hotel.

 

[Soverytired]

There's a name for this, you know.

did they have the bodies to pull off the low cut stuff, or were they the fat chicks in skinny girl cloths with rolls hanging out? I am sick of seeing fatties trying to pull off the low/tight look! .

Muffin-tops?


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=muffin+top


Well, it's Mesa, so GUARANTEED, they'll quit in 3 months an we'll have a new crop. *

*execpt for the truly old, ugly, stupid, man-hating, psychotic, 100% unmotivated slackers who'll stick around and seem to get assigned to all my flights . . . . .

 

[Slice121]

What about FUPA?


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FUPA

 

[JohnnyP]

....

No, they definately did not have the figures to pull this off. It was bad. Dont get me wrong, I like a good view just like the next guy, but this was 'outa line.

 

[Cloudroller]

Ok, jumpseater shows up with an airline ID, in a loincloth with a bone through his nose; at what point do you care about his appearance?

Their is a difference between asking for the jumpseat and non reving in back. Jumpseater's are pilots / dispatchers, Non revs could be anyone - chances are these non revs spoted in Hawaii were rampers, or gate agents. I dont know why you really care. What a LXJ31 - Jetstream 31?

 

[D'Angelo]

jumping on an america west flight sunday night out of honolulu i saw about 8 mesa employees hopping a ride and not one of them were dressed in standby/jumping attire.....i will say that i think 6 of them were FA's and 2 were peeeealots......the pilots were wearing jeans, sandals and baseball caps and and the FA's were just as casual....in fact one of the FA's (a guy) had his ears pierced with black corkscrew inch long horns.....they were all flashing their badges around....
now, i'm the last person to give a $hit, but seriously.........somehow they got away with it......
in fact, the irony that i saw was that america west contracts aloha gate agents for their flights and the gate agents didn't seem to notice.....
i don't even know what i'm getting at....actually i wasn't all that surprised to see mesa employees looking and acting so half a$$ed......man they pi$$ me off....

This is exactly why not to wear a badge when your non reving. Its no ones buisness really. If the gate agent deems it inappropriate then you will be removed from the flight. Its quite simple really. I do not wear a badge when I non rev because quite frankly its no one elses buisness what im doing. Not that it isnt too hard to pick out airline employees though

 

[whaleroast]

This is exactly why not to wear a badge when your non reving. Its no ones buisness really. If the gate agent deems it inappropriate then you will be removed from the flight. Its quite simple really. I do not wear a badge when I non rev because quite frankly its no one elses buisness what im doing. Not that it isnt too hard to pick out airline employees though

You know I actually agree with you on this point.
One thing I find amusing are the tools that wear their badges around the airport in their civvies, like they are king crap or something. Oh, you have a badge, I'm sorry please use the urinal with the new cake in it.

 

[Av8rPHX]

Im in agreement with the last 2 posters... as soon as I pass TSA, the badge comes off and goes into the pocket.

 

[dardar]

I usually refrain from coming out and unloading on some other company, person, etc, but I cant help myself on this one, it was too good. I was pretty shocked at what I saw. I was traveling yesterday evening out of dulles, D14, (i had a plane ticket purchased for me, not nonrev/JS'ing, etc), and saw a bunch of MESA FA's hanging around the gate area, kinda looked like some kinda newhire orientation. (im pretty sure it was MESA, they all had the blue cloud badges). It brought regional airline sloppiness to a whole new level for me. These "ladies" looked just about as trashy as I have yet to see in this industry. They looked like a group of 15 year old's hanging out at a bowling alley, all proudly displaying ID badges (ripped, holey jeans, low cut hooker shirts, the works). Dont get me wrong, PDT had its share of sloppy garbage just like everyone else, but this was some busch league stuff.

They probably looked more like an airline employee than anyone wearing those trashy windbreakers. What will J.O. think of next? Replacing the airline hat with a trucker hat that says "It ain't gonna lick itself"? Possibly wearing Mesa sweatpants with prefabricated visible skidmarks.

I hate those windbreakers. They just screw with the appearence of the job (which does affect our pay) How would you feel if your lawyer showed up to court wearing those little red lifeguard shorts?

I hate those windbreakers.

 

[Jetscream32]

"Do Mesa employees care?"

One word: NO

Why? Because management could care less. All they want in a body to fill a spot. Especially FAs. Mesa has a 100% turnover rate for flight attendants every three months. Literally if we hire 100 then 100 will quit by the time the newhires are finished with training. Corporate mentality with a wicked bad trickle down effect.

 

[Mesa Beer]

What will J.O. think of next? Replacing the airline hat with a trucker hat that says "It ain't gonna lick itself"?

I used to hit all the truck stops on my way out to Farmington. I really love them truckers skillz. Too bad pilot lounges arent as freaky & sexy as truck stop bathrooms.

I also made LETS ROLL baseball caps for my pilots back in 2001. They were quite a hit, and looked real sweet with the windbreaker.

Drink Mesa Beer

 

[BlackPilot628]

This is exactly why not to wear a badge when your non reving. Its no ones buisness really. If the gate agent deems it inappropriate then you will be removed from the flight. Its quite simple really. I do not wear a badge when I non rev because quite frankly its no one elses buisness what im doing. Not that it isnt too hard to pick out airline employees though

I agree. The only time I wear my badge through the airport in civiy's is when I'm jumpseating; weather it be cabin or cockpit.

I personally don't care what people wear when asking for a jumpseat, as long as they look neat. I wear jeans every time that I non-rev. I could care less about sitting in first class; I would just rather be comfortable.
While I was a ticket agent for ASA during college, We had this one Delta guy who wore Jeans, Collard Shirt, and dark Tennie-shoes, looked fine to me. ASA guys never had a problem taking him.

There are ways to look decent and wear things other than Khakis.

 

[FlyBunny]

So what!

jumping on an america west flight sunday night out of honolulu i saw about 8 mesa employees hopping a ride and not one of them were dressed in standby/jumping attire.....i will say that i think 6 of them were FA's and 2 were peeeealots......the pilots were wearing jeans, sandals and baseball caps and and the FA's were just as casual....in fact one of the FA's (a guy) had his ears pierced with black corkscrew inch long horns.....they were all flashing their badges around....
now, i'm the last person to give a $hit, but seriously.........somehow they got away with it......
in fact, the irony that i saw was that america west contracts aloha gate agents for their flights and the gate agents didn't seem to notice.....
i don't even know what i'm getting at....actually i wasn't all that surprised to see mesa employees looking and acting so half a$$ed......man they pi$$ me off....

What's your definition of 'standby/jumping attire'?

If someone is not 'jumpseating' in the cockpit, then who really cares...I mean...who really cares!

Obvioulsy the pilots won't be receptive to jeans and baseball attire if someone requests a ride on the flight deck.

Get on with you life!

No one cares what you think or whether you are so pi$$ed.

You're NO ONE!

Bunny

 

[Seahawker01]

[rant] Do you remember when people actually got dressed up to get on a plane or if you don’t at least look at some of the old pictures hanging around the airport? Not to be an elitist but airports were not meant to replace the bus stop. My point is if maybe we quit looking like trailer park trash and put on a pair of real shoes passengers just might think about looking a little nicer when they sit next us in the back. If that happened maybe we could get away from being glorified bus drivers and back to being professionals. And they might pay more the $25 for a ticket. And we might stop this race to the bottom. And get paid like a professional again.
Oh and while I am at take off those friggin ids you dork! The downline already lists you as a nonrev so the F/As know and guess what the chicks don’t care. If you want to impress the chicks try not looking like you just rolled in from the truck stop and put on a shirt. [/rant]
Thank you I feel better now even if I know it will never happen

 

[SuperKooter]

Mesa FO hired in 2001 now Fo at CAL.
ASA FO hired in 2001 now upgrading on the ATR.

Wow whos the ass now?

 

[FlyBunny]

Wow...so enlightening!

[rant] Do you remember when people actually got dressed up to get on a plane or if you don’t at least look at some of the old pictures hanging around the airport? Not to be an elitist but airports were not meant to replace the bus stop. My point is if maybe we quit looking like trailer park trash and put on a pair of real shoes passengers just might think about looking a little nicer when they sit next us in the back. If that happened maybe we could get away from being glorified bus drivers and back to being professionals. And they might pay more the $25 for a ticket. And we might stop this race to the bottom. And get paid like a professional again.
Oh and while I am at take off those friggin ids you dork! The downline already lists you as a nonrev so the F/As know and guess what the chicks don’t care. If you want to impress the chicks try not looking like you just rolled in from the truck stop and put on a shirt. [/rant]
Thank you I feel better now even if I know it will never happen

You've sure spoken like the one [Elitist]. Read up on your history...you'd find out that in the early days of 'automobile' travel (possible for only the rich), it was common perception that the 'poor' do not deserve to ride in one.

People who live in Trailers have just as much right as you, Madam/Sir, to travel and no one can dictate how to dress. As long as you wear clean clothes and don't smell too bad - considering it's a community gathering - I have no problem. Just remember Mr. or Mr.s Pilot, that those people who live in trailers and travel on airplanes are making contribution to your paycheck and helping you to put food on your table!

Bunny

 

[Seahawker01]

Bunny your right. I have no problem with anyone living in a trailer, hell I have lived in one before. My point was for us not to look like the trash that shows up on Cops. Despite all the pay cuts I know we can still afford a pair of slacks. But lets face facts most of our passengers can afford or even have slacks packed, without excluding anyone that does not, why can’t we bring a little class back to our work environment?

 

[808pilot]

Flybunny....simmer down.....so are you one of those people that just don't care? you don't mind people laughing at you for looking like crap? your company is just a paycheck to you?
go back a few pages and you'll see i was merely pointing out something.....i could care less if mesa could care less about themsleves....everyone already knows they suck.....but if you want to keep feeding the fire, go for it.....
to the people who have responded to this thread DEFENDING what i saw....yea, you're right, i think we should dress up in prom attire to travel (for those that are slow, sarcasm, cough..flybunny).....last time i checked, a collared (sp?) shirt is pretty cheap.....nice jeans or causal slacks are cheap.....shoes other than running shoes and sandals can be found for cheap......taking out your 12 guage earing is easy to do.....is it so hard to try and look the part if you are going to be traveling nearly for free on someone else's airline to simply represent your company?
i'll answer that for those that have a problem with it.....apparently it is....
i'm actually pretty surprised that i managed to strike a nerve with a fair amount of people over this topic....
and flybunny (cute name)....thanks for pointing out that i'm NO BODY....spoken like someone who works for mesa that NO BODY cares about or respects......

 

[PHXFLYR]

I suspect your a pilot who takes pride in his job and his appearance as my husband does when he jumps....

If so,he is a rare breed and I tip my hat to him PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

No, they definately did not have the figures to pull this off. It was bad. Dont get me wrong, I like a good view just like the next guy, but this was 'outa line.

When you look at the starting salaries over there, you can very well imagine the "gene-pool" they are drawing from . Betcha you can find some of them on old Jerry Springer reruns if you had the time ....


PHXFLYR

 

[MESA=WALMART]

Mesa! What A Joke. Uneducated Sell Outs That Dont Even Know How Much People Are Laughing At Them. What Cracks Me Up The Most Is When They Come Up And Ask For A Ride They're All The Sudden Someone Else Other Than Mesa. They Will Say They Dont Like Mesa But Still They Work There And They Went To A Interview And Said Yes! Wow Thats All I Can Say. Good Help Them!

 

[lowlycfi]

Mesa! What A Joke. Uneducated Sell Outs That Dont Even Know How Much People Are Laughing At Them. What Cracks Me Up The Most Is When They Come Up And Ask For A Ride They're All The Sudden Someone Else Other Than Mesa. They Will Say They Dont Like Mesa But Still They Work There And They Went To A Interview And Said Yes! Wow Thats All I Can Say. Good Help Them!

It's not safe to stop taking your medication...

 

[SpacemanSpiff]

? for you

jumping on an america west flight sunday night out of honolulu i saw about 8 mesa employees hopping a ride and not one of them were dressed in standby/jumping attire

Do you actually know what the standby/jumping attire is for America West/US Airways? Regardless, I suspect you do not really care. You are currently bored, and you have not had a chance to shout to the world "MESA SUCKS!" lately since you were off vacationing in Hawaii. Do you feel better now that you have it off of your chest? Excellent. Thanks for sharing.

If the America West employees operating the flight did not think it a problem, then what business is it of yours?

Spiff

 

[SpacemanSpiff]

huh?

to the people who have responded to this thread DEFENDING what i saw....yea, you're right, i think we should dress up in prom attire to travel

Okay, you are entitled to your opinion. Do the rest of us have to live our lives in compliance with ALL of your opinions? What if the rules contradict your opinions and judgements? Can I get your cell number so I can give you a call and make sure I am living in compliance?

So you don't respect me and my fellow employees. Boo hoo. Thanks for sharing and enlightening us.

Spiff

 

[SpacemanSpiff]

The truth shall set you free

Did you look at the nonrev dress code for US Air and am west? All allowed even shorts are allowed!! Be informed not stupid!

Don't let those silly little FACTS get in the way of a perfectly good rant.