Do American Eagle and Xjet have CDO's?

[Steve]

Do Eagle and Expressjet have CDO's? Is it possible to only fly CDO's? Do they usually go senior? Thanks

 

[Secret Squirrel]

what is a CDO?

 

[CitationLover]

Eagle does now, but they are going away (bye bye).

 

[BoilerUP]

what is a CDO?

High-speed, nap, standup...

 

[Flyer1015]

Continuous Duty Overnight?

 

[rjacobs]

At XJT we have red eyes, so sort of a CDO. I think some of the red eyes leave IAH around 10:00 and have a 3 or 4 hour sit at the out station before returning. But, if by a CDO you mean you have long enough to get a hotel room, then I think we rarely do that, but I wont say never.

 

[CitationLover]

At XJT we have red eyes, so sort of a CDO. I think some of the red eyes leave IAH around 10:00 and have a 3 or 4 hour sit at the out station before returning. But, if by a CDO you mean you have long enough to get a hotel room, then I think we rarely do that, but I wont say never.

eagle's CDO's are pretty tame to that. usually 7:30 hours of "duty" in between the two flights. for flight attendants the CDO lines are way senior as they simply drop the trips (30hrs of pay) and still make their adjusted guarantee without lifting a finger. this is why i think eagle is dropping them.

 

[ratherbeflyen]

XJT's contract forbids the scheduling of COD's into lines. They can only assign them if its an operational necessity, and even then its a maximum of 3 flights the night before and 1 leg in the morning. I don't know how they could ever make you do one because of duty time, or reserve call times. Any time you have a sit of over 5 1/2 hours they have to get you a hotel room. That happens once in a while but usually not at night.

 

[wannabe22]

Eagle does now, but they are going away (bye bye).

Whats your source on that?

 

[Superpilot92]

At XJT we have red eyes, so sort of a CDO. I think some of the red eyes leave IAH around 10:00 and have a 3 or 4 hour sit at the out station before returning. But, if by a CDO you mean you have long enough to get a hotel room, then I think we rarely do that, but I wont say never.

They arent all long sits in the middle. I used to do alot of redeyes, the phx usually had the worst sit time. But the DEN.PSP,BFL, and LAX stuff werent that long of sits usually. DEN was the best one.left at1055 pm back by 530am with our Min Day pay it was worth 7 and 1/2 hours pay for a nights work. Gone after my son went to sleep and back before he woke up=good To each their own

 

[Soverytired]

High-speed, nap, standup...

Whoo-ooo!

Camping trips!

Bring your sleeping bag, pillow, board, cot, toiletries, hangar (for shirt), eye-blinders, earplugs, pajamas, alarm clock, face mask (for mashing your face into those clean pax seats) and "go" pills!

These are sometimes called "killers" and anyone who's flown them knows why the first thought in every 4-leg CDO-humpers mind about the recent Comair crash was "thank god, these will finally be exposed as the fatigue inducing insanities they are and will now be ended for good".

(unfortunately, that didn't happen, but those kinda stupid mistakes are what regularly happen for these sleep-starved crews)

 

[Atccfi]

eagle's CDO's are pretty tame to that. usually 7:30 hours of "duty" in between the two flights. for flight attendants the CDO lines are way senior as they simply drop the trips (30hrs of pay) and still make their adjusted guarantee without lifting a finger. this is why i think eagle is dropping them.

I know down in SJU the three cdo's were all around 745/755 rest, so just barely a cdo... still got a hotel room and could get plenty of sleep... Very senior down there!! Just like you said, senior mamas would bid them drop them all (lose 20hrs), pick up 20 hrs OT and end up working 4-5 days for the while month and banking 80hrs total pay... not too shabby....

 

[CitationLover]

Whats your source on that?

maybe i'm wrong. from the koolaid page.

Question: CDOs (3-29-07) There is a lot of rumors around about Mays schedules at least in ORD. They are no CDO's and no 3 day trips at all. If this is true why?

Response: In reference to ORD and I assume you are inquiring about ERJ?s since you mentioned CDO?s. There will be both CDO?s and 3 day trips within ORD ERJ?s at this time for May

as for an initial source, it was this eaglelounge (i know that's credible) post.
http://forums.eaglelounge.com/showthread.php?t=10317

 

[Americam]

Does Trans States do (insert prefered terminology here high speeds? CDOs? Standups?).

 

[detwilers]

They arent all long sits in the middle. I used to do alot of redeyes, the phx usually had the worst sit time. But the DEN.PSP,BFL, and LAX stuff werent that long of sits usually. DEN was the best one.left at1055 pm back by 530am with our Min Day pay it was worth 7 and 1/2 hours pay for a nights work. Gone after my son went to sleep and back before he woke up=good To each their own

I used to love doing standups. I would be nice to have them here at XJT.
We were restricted to 1 leg out and 1 leg back. They left at about the same time as the red eyes here do but got back and hour or 2 later. But you where able to easily get 6 hours of actual sleep. So the rest of the day you could actually be productive at home. The flights were only about 30 min flight time and you would have about 7 to 9 hours. (normally you need a min of 9 hours - 8hrs rest + 15 debrief + 45 min prior to go = 9 hours from block in to block out for a normal reduced rest overnight.) The cool thing about the Stand up is that you left all your stuff in the airplane and showed up about 25 min prior to departure. Since loads are usually light in the morning and everything is all ready to go you could easily be buttoned up in 25 mins without rushing. Pay was 1/2 of total duty time which worked out to about 6 hours.
6 hours of pay for 2 quick 30 min flights, about 6 hours of sleep, and EVERY day at home with the kids was just great.