DL Negotiations effects on DCI Pilots from WSJ

[NuGuy]

Hey all,


The one thing the General forgot to mention about any possible CO-DL merger is that it's not possible without the blessing of NW, which won't happen.

Put your way-back machine on 1997, NWA bought something like %25 of CO, with %50.1 of the voting equity. From what I understand, they snatched CO literally right from under DL's nose.

Just after, the CO-NW codeshare started. Then the DOJ got all huffy that NW's shysters were more clever than anyone elses, so they forced NW to divest themselves of most of the CO stock. HOWEVER, NW retained the "golden share" that allows them to veto any transaction regarding mergers or any other "captial" decisions.

But, from what I understand, the CO-NW codeshare has been VERY good for revenue for both carriers. The DL-NW-CO codeshare is doing great, despite being in just the startup stages.

FWIW...

Nu

 

[surplus1]

General,

What is "aspergus" -- the stuff you say is filling your planes from South America?

I'm not being facetious, I would really like to know.

 

[On Your Six]

GL is right again...

Inclusivescope and bvt,

As the economy continues to improve, limiting seats to 737 capacity would remove money from the table when 757/767s could be used on trunk routes. GL is correct, parking the super-expensive MD11s was a big mistake when they could have been used profitably to more-popular Europe, Sao Paulo or Tokyo routes. MD-11s costing $15K per day parked in the desert - who's the management wizard who made that decision?

I don't understand why there is a debate here - RJs belong in non-LCC contested markets so that they can make a healthy margin using premium fares and larger 757/767 aircraft should be used on trunk routes (or contested LCC markets) so that costs can be spread among more seats. That's pretty logical.

 

[General Lee]

Surplus1,


I probably misspelled it---you know, that green vegetable that makes your pee smell.....But it is great for you! I guess they grow a lot of it in Peru.... My whole point was that we do carry a lot of precious cargo out of certain markets...

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[CRJ puppy]

Asparagus.


Member of the lily family. New shoots are edible. A well tended bed will produce for 100 years or more. Generally not productive until the roots are about 5 years old. Grows in temperate climates.

 

[surplus1]

Surplus1,


I probably misspelled it---you know, that green vegetable that makes your pee smell.....But it is great for you! I guess they grow a lot of it in Peru.... My whole point was that we do carry a lot of precious cargo out of certain markets...

Bye Bye--General Lee

Thanks. I thought it might be that but didn't want to "assume". I wasn't picking on your spelling.
S1

 

[wms]

Does anyone know why the MD11s are parked? Does DAL not want them and can't find a buyer or is there another reason? I believe they the only plane still parked, with exception of the 72s which DAL just got rid of permanently.


According to the shareholder's report, DAL intends to be a 3-type airline when all is said and done. I don't know if that includes CRJs and if it combines the 75/76, which I assume it does.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

737-800, 75,76,77

 

[General Lee]

I doubt the 738 will be the smallest aircraft. Probably a 737 family (-600, -700, -800), and maybe a 100 seater in there too. I bet 100 seater, 737 family, 757/767, and 777. Who knows?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[wms]

I think the E-190 will not be worth the expense of the transition. 73 family (maybe with the 73-600 rather than a new type), 75/76, 777. What about the reason why the MD11s are parked?

 

[General Lee]

We supposedly have 3 MD-11s that have leases until 2015.


Bye Bye--General Lee