Dishonesty at Endeavor?

[Chris9702l]

I think there were quite a few guys that were lifers before the paycuts that now see that they would now only take one or two years hit before making more again at the majors. Their attitudes, employment records, logbooks, ect. bear those thoughts out. They are now either kicking themselves for voting yes, passing on the flow, or both.

I don't think so. There were 3 guys who just recently bypassed the flow. They may have there reasons (granted, all 3 are around 55 years old) but it still doesn't make sense to me. Go to class right now, suffer a little pay cut and reserve for a year and you'll get right back to where you are in the second year. Hiring numbers keep going up, there is gonna be massive movement. And the rest of your 8 years at a major is gonna be gravy. They have been here through many bankruptcies and mergers and a big uncertain future for the next 10 years but still they stay. The stability of Delta more than makes up for the pay cut. But everyone has to make their own decisions.
I just feel for the couple of guys who were right below the 108 cutoff point. Out of the 108 grandfathered flows I bet only about 90 some probably took it.

 

[DoinTime]

So in one year at delta you go from new hire in training to senior line holder with all weekends, holidays and special events off? Cherry picking the best trips for yourself? Living in domicile?

That must be some pretty amazing stuff you're smoking.

 

[Flyer1015]

Ive flown with the guy that organized those pickets and he made it clear those pickets were done to say "screw you Nagel, we act irrationally if we want to". Unity- as long as 9E was in the drivers seat. Yet another poisonous attitude that held up all the way through the SLI, and it defeated the pilot group there too. While the picket started off as a referendum, in the end it had nothing to do with current negotiations. No ALPA support, no advertisement, no communication from national, and the last one at JFK was cancelled because the chair said he finally got the message from national and Delta Local. He said he was glad he cancelled the last one because not many were showing up and he had made his point that Pinnacle pilots were unhappy with the negotiations. It wasnt about speeding them up or changing the direction, it was about Pinnacle PTSD and needing an outlet.

That doesn't surprise me. It literally was dishonesty at 9E.

 

[gojo]

That doesn't surprise me. It literally was dishonesty at 9E.

This thread should've been called dishonesty at Endeavor via Delta

 

[jynxyjericho]

This thread should've been called dishonesty at Endeavor via Delta

Eh, Delta really isn't breaking any rules. We made a judgement call, we were wrong to blindly trust Delta, and I can't fault them for letting us step into it. It's still better than the judge handing us GoJet or Republic wages and less soft pay. At least a few guys are getting the yes on the interview, the other guys should be first picks at U/CO and AA.