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This is the only article I've seen to date that details why, at the last minute, the door was cracked open again for United at the ATSB. Politics is ugly---one phone call from Denny Hastert and United has a third chance.

United's request for loan guarantee rejected

By Caroline Daniel in Chicago







A request by UAL's United Airlines for a $1.6bn loan guarantee was rejected on Thursday night, dealing a serious blow to efforts by the world’s second largest airline to emerge from bankruptcy protection.

The Air Transportation Stabilisation Board, which oversees the US's loan guarantee system, said two members - Ned Gramlich from the Federal Reserve and Brian Roseboro, treasury undersecretary for domestic finance - had voted to deny the application. Jeff Shane, transportation undersecretary, voted to defer a decision to next week.

However, in a twist that emerged after the ATSB issued its statement, the Treasury Department said it was open to reconsidering United’s case should it submit "an improved application in coming days".

The ATSB's decision is still a setback for the company, which has spent the past 18 months restructuring while in bankruptcy protection. The airline now faces a highly uncertain times ahead. The legal grounds under which it can reapply for a loan remain unclear.

The unexpected move by the Treasury, effectively overruling its own representative’s decision - has been spearheaded by John Snow, treasury secretary, who has come under considerable pressure this week from Dennis Hastert, the influential speaker of the House of Representatives, the lower house of the US Congress.

Mr Roseboro and Mr Gramlich were understood to be furious about the prospect of letting United reapply for the loan, according to several people involved in the talks. Mr Hastert's role is likely to ignite long-standing suspicions that the decision about United’s future, was always going to be made on political grounds, not purely econonic criteria, especially given the politically charged environment of an election year.

United Airlines said it was "perplexed by the announcement made by the ATSB. We have reason to believe we are in the midst of a process with the ATSB to make our application acceptable and that a decision was premature. We do not believe that the Board was made fully aware of the important modifications United was willing to bring to the table."

United executives this week had flown to Washington to negotiate further concessions, amid signs early in the week that their application was about to be turned down. Glenn Tilton, United's chief executive, and Jake Brace, the airline's finance director, met with ATSB officials all day Wednesday and most of Thursday to discuss last-minute measures.

The concessions are understood to have included introducing new equity investment, reducing the amount of the ATSB loan and reducing the time to repay it.

Political pressure in Washington was stepped up over the last few days amid fears of a possible vote to deny United’s application On Tuesday Mr Hastert rang Mr Snow to lobby on behalf of United, an intervention that is understood to have helped United continue to negotiate with ATSB officials.

Mr Hastert, in a statement, said: "Of course, I am disappointed that the ATSB did not yet approve the loan application submitted by United Airlines. It is my understanding that the ATSB decision may be premature, and that United Airlines may still be in the process of enhancing its application, to make it more acceptable to those who are making the decision."

The ATSB noted United’s cost-cutting efforts, but said a majority of the board had concluded that: "the likelihood of United succeeding without a loan guarantee is sufficiently high so as to make a loan guarantee unnecessary
 
Must be wrong

This is obviously incorrect. Republicans are against labor and jobs according to our left wing posters. It must have been Skerry who made the call. It had to be him since he is ALPA's saving grace. Surely it was a Dem that tried to help United. I know, Hastert is really a Dem is disguise! ;)
 
Any congresscritter will push to preserve jobs in his/her own district. They care about getting re-elected more than ideology. Trent Lott (Republican senator from Mississippi) is about as rock-ribbed as they come, but he got the Feds to spend $hundreds of millions to subsidize the construction of two cruise-liners in... Mississippi (surprise!). That project, no surprise, was a total disaster, and the Federal govt ended up losing most of that money. One of the boats was abandoned in construction and was later towed to Europe to be finished by a shipyard there. Yep, that good ole' boy ended up subsidizing European jobs. What an idiot. See what happens when politicians meddle in business matters?

New York Times article today suggests that if the ATSB were to reverse itself on United, it may leave it open to being sued by other airlines because it's already made a statutory determination that United should not get the money. I.e. if the ATSB reverses itself now, it may be acting contrary to its enabling legislation.
 
Politics at the ATSB? I'm shocked, shocked mind you that there would be politics at the ATSB.
 
Just to set the record straight, Trent Lott was a blowhard and of questionable intellect.

As a conservative, I was very glad to see him marginalized. Leadership like his is the last thing I want to see.

Doofus. The republican party's answer to Tom Daschle. I take that back - Daschle is the Dem's answer to Arlen Specter.

Anyway, you can danm well bet that politics will account for 90% of the ATSB decision.

Also, some normally conservative congressmen may push for a UAL bailout to help GWB in november.

As much as I want to see W get reelected, nothing is worth selling out principles. If they deserve the loan, give it to them. If not, don't.
 
In an election year?

UAL bailout foe may quit
ATSB member balks at Treasury plan to reconsider

By Simon Kennedy And Lynne Marek, Bloomberg News
June 19, 2004

U.S. Treasury Undersecretary Brian Roseboro, who voted to reject a loan guarantee for United Airlines as a member of a government board, is prepared to quit the panel after his department agreed to reconsider the application, people familiar with the matter said.

Roseboro and Federal Reserve Governor Edward Gram- lich Thursday rejected a $1.6 billion guarantee for the world's second-largest airline, a unit of UAL Corp. Department of Transportation Undersecretary Jeff Shane voted for a one-week deferral as the third member of the Air Transportation Stabilization Board.

At the same time the ATSB announced its decision, the Treasury Department released an unsigned statement saying it would be willing to reconsider an "improved application."

"It would appear he's pushing back on political intervention and that he intends to hold his ground and do the job he was appointed to do," said Kevin Mitchell, chairman of the Business Travel Coalition, an advocacy group for large buyers of business travel services.

Roseboro, the undersecretary for domestic finance, couldn't be reached for comment. Anne Womack-Kolton, a Treasury spokeswoman who also speaks for the loan board, said, "There has been no change to Treasury's representation on the ATSB."

U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert, a Republican from Illinois, the home state of United parent UAL, has lobbied the panel to back the carrier. He said Friday he "hoped" the board would reconsider the decision.

Chicago-based United sent a letter to the board Friday saying that it planned to continue with the application process, said spokeswoman Jean Medina. "We've been in touch with them to let them know we will be pursuing what they offered," she said.

The board has rejected applications from nine carriers and awarded six loan guarantees. A law enacted after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks made $10 billion in guarantees available to help carriers recover.

The Air Transportation Stabilization Board initially rejected United's request for a $1.8 billion guarantee in December 2002, and the airline filed the industry's largest bankruptcy five days later. The Fed's Gramlich also was on the panel that rejected the 2002 request.

"I do not feel it is necessary to reconsider the application," Gramlich said Friday in a statement. "However, if UAL submits additional information and other members of the ATSB are inclined to reconsider, the ATSB staff will evaluate the additional information according to its procedures for reconsiderations."

Roseboro is expected to remain with the Treasury Department, the people said.

Roseboro, 44, became under-secretary in April after serving since July 2001 as the Treasury's assistant secretary for federal finance. In his current role, he is the Bush administration's chief conduit to the government bond market and responsible for funding a budget deficit the White House anticipates will reach $521 billion this year.

Before joining the administration, Roseboro was deputy director of market risk management at New York-based American International Group Inc., the world's largest insurer.

He also has worked as the chief dealer on the foreign exchange desk of the New York Federal Reserve and as vice president of foreign-exchange options at First National Bank of Chicago
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Has Hastert stepped over the line?

June 21, 2004
BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, who usually operates discreetly below the radar, set off a firestorm inside Washington last week with one telephone call. Hastert called Treasury Secretary John Snow on behalf of a constituent's loan request. The speaker was pushing a $1.6 billion loan guarantee for United Airlines, the nation's second-largest air carrier.

It was assumed Hastert's clout would carry the day for United. Instead, the Treasury cast the deciding vote Thursday to deny the federal bailout. But the issue is far from settled. After a second intervention by Hastert, the Treasury issued a statement inviting a new United proposal -- presumably including new capital to be poured into the bankrupt airline. That puts Snow and the Treasury in a precarious position. Can they withstand this pressure from the powerful speaker?

This prolongs the loan stabilization program some three years after it was created to preserve America's airline industry after Sept. 11, 2001. The extension is traced to the speaker, third in line for the presidency, pressuring a Cabinet member on behalf of a home state corporation.

The issue is before the three-member Air Transportation Stabilization Board, created to oversee the loan guarantees. The Federal Reserve, the Treasury and the Department of Transportation each have one vote. In December 2002, when United sought a $1.9 billion loan guarantee, the board voted 2-1 against, with Transportation dissenting in favor of the bailout. The renewed request is based on economic pressure from $40-a-barrel oil. Other carriers say they must cope with the same high oil prices.

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta has recused himself because his wife is a retired United Airlines flight attendant. Deputy Secretary Kirk Van Tine, who cast the dissenting vote on the earlier loan request, is totally committed to bailing out United and determines the department's position. The Federal Reserve is just as inflexible in the opposite position, and there was no point in Hastert trying to lobby the nonpolitical central bank. He had to go to the Treasury.

The Treasury's representative on the board, Undersecretary Brian Roseboro, was as firm against the bailout as the Fed member, Governor Edward Gramlich. Roseboro, an officer of the American International Group before going into government, is considered one of the rising stars of the Bush administration. Instead of approaching Roseboro, the speaker telephoned his boss.

After Hastert's call to Snow, United CEO Glenn Tilton cancelled a speech at a New York conference of investors to fly from Chicago to Washington. Tilton and Frederic Brace, United's chief financial officer, met with Treasury officials but not anybody from the unapproachable Fed. It was assumed in Washington that the speaker's clout would carry the day for United.

Hastert placed a second call to Snow last Thursday. He may have known by that time that Roseboro would vote against the loan guarantee. Undersecretary Jeffrey Shane, representing Transportation on the board, voted to defer the decision for a week to try to save the loan. The majority of the board issued a decision asserting that the loan was not necessary to maintain a ''viable'' U.S. aviation system as mandated by the loan guarantee law. The case, finally, seemed closed.

But it wasn't. Presumably influenced by Hastert's interest, the Treasury issued a statement saying it was prepared to reconsider if United submitted ''an improved application in the coming days.'' That is expected to be $250 million to $300 million in new equity. What then will Roseboro and the Treasury be forced to do under political pressure? Will this trigger bailout requests from other airlines?

Republican Sen. Peter Fitzgerald, who has been at odds with his fellow Illinoisan Hastert during his single term in the Senate, opposes the bailout and is interested in a senatorial inquiry of improper lobbying on the issue. The question is whether the speaker, helping a company with headquarters in Chicago and many employees in his congressional district, has stepped over the line in influencing the government's decision.
 

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