Differences between CRJ and ERJ?

[Nindiri]

Those coffee makers on the CRJ brew some vile stuff, the sort of stuff you repair holes in the ramp with. I'm not sure it's really appropriate to refer to it as coffee.

 

[Russ]

After talking to mx and them telling me what the potable water tanks are like on the inside, I'll take a pass on the coffee.

 

[CF34-3B1]

I knoe a guy who "borrows" the little mini coffee makers from overnight hotels, plugs them into the galley electrical outlet, and uses bottled water to make his coffee.

Says he started doing that after he saw the potable water tanks.

 

[Jetlinkin]

CRJ has 1980's Technology

ERJ has current Technology also used on Airbuses (Primus Avionics)

 

[the turtle]

the bathroom....ask any fat person.

 

[ifly4food]

CRJ has 1980's Technology

ERJ has current Technology also used on Airbuses (Primus Avionics)

No, the B757/767 has "80s technology".

As for differances between the CRJ and the "Jungle Jet"?

The CRJ is more like a real airplane.
The Jungle Jet is a Brazilia that they shoehorned in a glass cockpit and hung jets on the tail. I have 2000 hours in Embraer products and driving one is like driving a cheap Italian sportscar... lots of fun, but high maintenance. The airplane looks and feels cheap. It is at 75% or less the cost of a CRJ.

The CRJ is based on the Challenger 600, which most pilots agree is a d@mn fine airplane. It feels substantial. The systems are very pilot friendly. If the ERJ is a Fiat, the CRJ is a BMW.

Drawbacks? It approaches nose low due to the tiny wing with no slats, so you have to flare it. You can get good landings, but you need to work for it. The CRJ-200 (50 seater) is grossly underpowered, struggling to get 500FPM through FL 250 on a hot day. Best cruise is usally .77, with .74 typical. The -700 (70 seater) has better engines, leading edge flaps, and in general is a much better airplane.
The only pain in training is to remember the silly Canadianisms they use to name all of the panels ("Display Reversionay Panel"... WTF?). Aside from that, the automation is amazing. It does everything for you if you choose to let it.

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

The CRJ is more like a real airplane.
The Jungle Jet is a Brazilia that they shoehorned in a glass cockpit and hung jets on the tail. I have 2000 hours in Embraer products and driving one is like driving a cheap Italian sportscar... lots of fun, but high maintenance. The airplane looks and feels cheap. It is at 75% or less the cost of a CRJ.

Actually, the E145 is nothing like the the E120. The only similarity they have is the fusalage, after that nothing is the same. Also, the systems (electrical, hyd, pneumatics, etc) were designed by Boeing engineers. The engines are Rolls Royce with throttle-by-wire (FADEC) technology. The interior is also completely different than the E120.

As far as the maintenance, the ERJ is actually cheaper to operate that the CRJ, by just a couple of percentage points. Also, our operational reliability is first in the industry (XJT).

You also mentioned the performance of the CRJ. The ERs and LRs will do at LEAST 1000 fpm to FL370 no matter what the ISA. Jumpseating on ASA I found that this is not the case with the older CRJs. Our XRs however, will do 1500 - 2000 fpm to FL370 with an indicated of 300IAS.

So, all in all, my FO can beat up your FO .

Frats,

 

[Caveman]

"The CRJ-200 (50 seater) is grossly underpowered, struggling to get 500FPM through FL 250 on a hot day. "

You had better put your 200 in the shop cause something ain't right. I'll grant you that the CRJ isn't a hotrod in the climb above FL250 but every one I ever flew could hold 1000fpm through 250.

 

[learflyer]

Just a quick question, I have an E-145 type rating, but might possibly be going back to school for the CL-65, are there a lot of similarieties between the two, systems wise? SG's, DAU's, FADEC's(I know this one), APU operation, just anything minute and/trivial that comes to mind for differences of the two? Curious as to how much will be completely new, and how much will be different, but not deafening? Thanks!

I airline alot on the crj, and I have to brace myself everytime they are about to put the gear down! Scares the he11 out of me everytime!! Theres always atleast one person who screams from the noise.

 

[Beechnut]

"Theres always atleast one person who screams from the noise."

Yeah whatever.

 

[learflyer]

Dork

 

[SkyWestCRJPilot]

The ERJs lav is much bigger which is nice. The display screens and avionics are newer since the airplane was certified after the CRJ which makes sense. But I believe the overall amount of information the two airplanes present the pilots is about the same. I prefer the standard yoke to the rams horn that the ERJ has. The cockpit of the CRJ is quieter. They seem pretty comparable overall. Now when you add in the CRJ-700 though the scales tip to Bombardier. But when you compare the ERJ-170/175/190/195 the scales tip back to Embraer. It seems whoever makes the newer airplane has the edge.

 

[Twotter76]

I airline alot on the crj, and I have to brace myself everytime they are about to put the gear down! Scares the he11 out of me everytime!! Theres always atleast one person who screams from the noise.

I fly the d@mn thing and it scares me! I try not to scream though...

 

[acaTerry]

You had better put your 200 in the shop cause something ain't right. I'll grant you that the CRJ isn't a hotrod in the climb above FL250 but every one I ever flew could hold 1000fpm through 250.

Perhaps yours is empty....I side with the 500 fpm. CRJ stands for C limb R estricted J et.

 

[Russ]

Could be different profiles provide for the differences.