Designated Pilot's Examiner's Handbook

[Iceman21]

I probably should have searched before posting this, but as of December 2004, DPE's have new rules that affect the way tests for certification are handled.

There have been some very interesting changes including the changing of the words "shall" to "must".

Here the link to the new book http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulator...7F85CD99697AA59D86256F700076ED32?OpenDocument

I would make this required reading for anyone taking a flight test.

 

[A Squared]

I don't know what other changes are in the works, but changing "shall" to "must" is completely trivial. "Shall" is imperative, it means "must" Substituting "must" for "shall" doesn't change the meaning in the least. Presumably the FAA believes that must is more readily understood than shall, but it means the exact same thing.

 

[Iceman21]

"Must" carries a bit more strength than "shall"

The point being that DPE's now have stricter guidlines in which to conduct a test for certification.

 

[A Squared]

"Must" carries a bit more strength than "shall"
The point being that DPE's now have stricter guidlines in which to conduct a test for certification.

No, this is not true, not even a little bit. Look in part 1 under rules of construction.

"1.3(a)(1) Shall is used in an imperative sense."

You will also find shall defined as imperative in any law dictionary you pick up. Shall is imperative. there is no "wiggle room" in an imperative. There is no less wiggle room in "must". Must is not "more imperative". Changing Shall to must does not change the meaning or intent in the slightest.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Yeah, but DPEs aren't lawyers and "must" =sounds= more imperative than "shall."

Compare, "I shall go to the bathroom now" with "I must go to the bathroom now." Which one will get you out of my way faster?

There's a semantic difference that may have a practical meaning even if not a regulatory one.

 

[A Squared]

Yeah, but DPEs aren't lawyers and "must" =sounds= more imperative than "shall."

Compare, "I shall go to the bathroom now" with "I must go to the bathroom now." Which one will get you out of my way faster?

There's a semantic difference that may have a practical meaning even if not a regulatory one.

Yeah, I agree, I alluded to that with my comment about it being more readily understood. They haven't changed the meaning, they are just trying to make the *same* meaning more understandable.

 

[NewBlue]

Sounds like someone in Fed-land is trying to justify their position..going through the manuals and changing the "happies" to "glads."

 

[JAFI]

Sounds like someone in Fed-land is trying to justify their position..going through the manuals and changing the "happies" to "glads."

A classic example of you get complaints if you do and complaints if you don't. The Examiners hand book has been out for a while and needed revision and clarification, more than a couple words. People complained that it needed revision. When it gets revised, SOME people complain it is to justify someone’s position.



JAFI