Delta's Loss Widens, Sets New Furloughs

[T45Flyer]

For now...

From Heavy Set:

"Delta has ample cash and it is not mired with a crappy St. Louis hub or fuel that it can't hedge."

-What is "Ample" cash when your losing $426 million a quarter/ a BILLION Plus dollars a year?? I can't believe that people are under some "illusion" that this company isn't in big trouble! Delta only has "ample" cash because they are selling the farm to raise it.

I find it incredible that Delta is actually losing more money than ever and generating more operating revenues at the same time! This is a broken machine folks! If you guys like this companies business model I would highly recommend some K-Mart stock for ya!

For the record, I am talking about the company as a whole, NOT Delta's pilot pay! And I do concur with Heavy set's in depth analysis of the St Louis hub! 25 mile finals really suck!

 

[Networ-King]

RJCap,

I can't believe that something like that would even come out of the mouth of a regional pilot unless your part of the RJDC and that means your screwed anyways. When I used to work for Eagle all I could think of was how the hell am I going to get the hell out of this place and make it on to a major. I never for one moment thought that the pay of the majors should be brought down to match my pay at Eagle or anywhere near it. I did not get into this business to make 80 grand for the rest of my life. Eventhough that its still a good wage, the pay scales are there for a reason. I am willing to bet that when you got hired by your regional, your goals were not to retire from there. NOBODY's goal is that!!!!!!! Sh*t happens and people get stuck places that they dont want to retire from. Now a days, having a job is the only thing that matters. Pay is unfortunately irrelavent. These fu*&king management teams know how much we love to fly and use that against us. Management likes to call this time in aviations a transition period. Transitioning the 300 thousand dollar a year job to maxing out at a 120 thousand. And now even you guys out there making the 120 after 12 years are losing the flying to the real whores of aviation........ CHQ, TSA, Continenta Connection, etc.... Im not dogging the employee groups with that statement, Im just pointing out the fact that Comair and ASA, in DAL's management eyes, are making too much money so they are shifting the flying to the least paid in the industry. RJCAP....... I know you have nothing to do with the growth or shrinkage of your company, but you sound like you want mainline to shrink so you can grow or the pay at mainline should shrink, why? I dunno. Albeit..... I think concessions should be made, but not when my fu*&ed up CEO takes a 1.4 million dollar bonus while he lays off 200 more guys.

T45,

The hub and spoke model is not obselete. It can work and it will work again. DAL is in the best position out of all the dinasours. DAL is getting 422 million dollars of the bailout money, which is the most out of all the airlines, because Delta carried the most passengers out of all the airlines. AMR and UAL are both bigger, but yet Delta carried more. Now are Delta, AMR, UAL, US Air run by some sh&theads? Yes...... Now I wish I could find out what secret management schools these idiots attended so I could bully the future CEO's attending right now.

ps. Sorry for the long post

 

[Publishers]

Adjust

While not trying to defend management on specific issues, the main problem that they all have is that airlines are not structured to deal with the giant swings of the last few years.

 

[SWA/FO]

Wondering where General Lee is/and or his take on DAL latest news, has nothing to with flame bait.

DAL sucks (would be flame bait)...now before you go yelling at me, I was just kidding.... take care.

 

[Heavy Set]

Did you guys ever think that General Lee might be flying?

 

[SWA/FO]

I was just thinking he was out enjoying the weather or maybe cutting the grass? I never thought he might be flying....? I guess, he'll come back when he is good and ready.

Speaking of flying...I've got to go myself, take care and Happy Easter to all.

 

[Heavy Set]

Mailman,

Thank goodness you are not a furloughed Delta pilot... If you were, you probably would appreciate General Lee and how he sticks up for you.

 

[SWA/FO]

General Lee is a fan of his airline...nothing wrong there. I must of missed his posts standing up for furloughees?

Last, I remember he was talking about Song, fuel hedging and money Delta has.

Flame Bait warning - Caution!