Delta's comprehensive 5 year financial plan outlined

[redflyer65]

Let's see how you guys do with GK. I don't think any raises are coming, but I hope so! Keep bringing the bar up, if you can...... GK sounds like he wants to transform the airline back into a LCC. Fingers crossed for you guys!


Bye Bye---General Lee

Why is it that when we are talking about Delta and the financials of Delta you HAVE to bring up Southwest and GK? You see a pattern here? Why would you be worried about SW or our contract? Makes no sense...


I will give you some insight to the ongoing negotiations....really inside info so keep it under your hat. We won't be voting in larger RJs. Please keep that to yourself.

 

[General Lee]

Why is it that when we are talking about Delta and the financials of Delta you HAVE to bring up Southwest and GK? You see a pattern here? Why would you be worried about SW or our contract? Makes no sense...


I will give you some insight to the ongoing negotiations....really inside info so keep it under your hat. We won't be voting in larger RJs. Please keep that to yourself.

No, you like to bring up extra things that YOU think DL pilots should have gotten in the latest contract. It's just not that easy. Sure, had the DL pilots known exactly where gas was going, that interest rates would stay low, and everything was going to be "peachy", maybe the negotiators would have tried for more. Maybe it would have been better. Things could have gotten worse (an extra War in the ME and gas shooting up, etc) and that 20% raise could have been 5% at best. You never know. I bring up your negotiations because they are next, and we know GK is itching to get back to the LCC model. We hope you guys hold the line, but you aren't negotiating from strength, rather a defensive model. And, you may not get large RJs flying for you, but you did lose 100 seaters (717s) and 17 cities you won't return to. See how this ties in with comparisons to the DL contract? Let's see how you guys do when you are done. Good luck.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[buxflyr]

We're all screwed if the code sharing continues to increase. Delta, American and United.

You can bet that this will potentially be one of the greatest threats to US based pilots in the coming years.

 

[General Lee]

We're all screwed if the code sharing continues to increase. Delta, American and United.

You can bet that this will potentially be one of the greatest threats to US based pilots in the coming years.

There has to be limits, and percentages attached. You can't always fly "Intra China" to get passengers to Shanghai or Beijing and then onwards to the USA. Sometimes those percentages are not adhered to, and that needs to be watched. Monitoring agreements is important, because codeshares and JVs will need to happen to compete on a GLOBAL scale. Businessmen and corporations want simplicity in travel, not constant changing of planes and airlines. You can't fly a US legacy to Shenzen, China, yet. So in the meantime, you have to codeshare, be a part of an alliance, or have a JV. Same with a Chinese citizen wanting to fly to Colorado Springs. But as I stated, any agreements have to be watched for compliance, which doesn't always happen.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[jonjuan]

New day, new farming out of flying for the private....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gol-linhas-delta-expand-codeshare-145321280.html


Gol Linhas, Delta expand codeshare agreement
GOL Linhas (GOL) announced the implementation of GOL codeshare on Delta's (DAL) flights from Brasilia to Atlanta. GOL will now sell Delta's international tickets through its sales channels. Over the next months other markets will be included in the codeshare, including all Delta flights between Brazil and the United States, as well as key connecting markets operated by the U.S. company, GOL stated.

 

[General Lee]

New day, new farming out of flying for the private....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gol-linhas-delta-expand-codeshare-145321280.html


Gol Linhas, Delta expand codeshare agreement
GOL Linhas (GOL) announced the implementation of GOL codeshare on Delta's (DAL) flights from Brasilia to Atlanta. GOL will now sell Delta's international tickets through its sales channels. Over the next months other markets will be included in the codeshare, including all Delta flights between Brazil and the United States, as well as key connecting markets operated by the U.S. company, GOL stated.

Uhhhhhhh, this one is GOOD for DL, and the DL pilots. Now GOL, the airline DL invested in, will put the Brasilia to Atlanta DL 757 on codeshare, allowing Brazillians to fly from smaller cities in Central and Northern Brazil (that are too small for DL to go to) to Brasilia, and then connect onto the DL plane. The 757 is regularly full, and more pax means it could be expanded to a larger plane, like a 767ER possibly. This announcement was GOOD for DL pilots, and DL profitability on this route in particular.

You were saying Jonny? Read the article first.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[EL10]

Wow. A very concise, factual representation of how the DL pilots got played by RA (or 60%, the other 40% knew better). Are the DALPA guys washing Anderson's car on the weekends too?

I'm sure Song 2 is right around the corner...funded by the DALPA contract.

With you quoting numbers. How much exactly should have the pilots taken? How much should gone for the other work groups over the next years? How much debt should they not pay down? Also what should they have allocated to shareholders?