delta upgrades?

[General Lee]

Huge bid came out today with upgrades on almost every fleet. (744 and 777 too). First bid with "super premium" seats in awhile.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[dalad]

This is the bid Category Vacancies Reason
DTW 744 Captain 6 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

DTW 744 F/O 6 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

DTW 777 Captain 4 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 765 Captain 5 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying
NYC 765 Captain 7 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 765 F/O 5 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying
NYC 765 F/O 7 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 330 Captain 10 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 330 F/O 15 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 7ER F/O 15 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

DTW 73N Captain 25 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying
NYC 73N Captain 15 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

DTW 73N F/O 30 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying
NYC 73N F/O 35 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 320 Captain 5 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying
NYC 320 Captain 15 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 320 F/O 10 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying
NYC 320 F/O 20 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL M88 Captain 10 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying
NYC M88 Captain 10 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL M88 F/O 40 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying
NYC M88 F/O 40 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 717 Captain 40 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

ATL 717 F/O 30 Add Staffing for 2014 Flying

 

[nwaf16dude]

That's some very good news. It'll be interesting to watch how junior all those narrow body captain seats go. Should create lots of good movement.

 

[jonjuan]

Huge bid came out today with upgrades on almost every fleet. (744 and 777 too). First bid with "super premium" seats in awhile.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Gee, highest paying plane 15 upgrades out of 12000 pilots. Maybe the 777 CAs can someday make what a 15 year SWA CAs make. Doubtful, however.

 

[LandGreen]

Gee, highest paying plane 15 upgrades out of 12000 pilots. Maybe the 777 CAs can someday make what a 15 year SWA CAs make. Doubtful, however.

Sure hope ur Airline never files bankruptcy! If they do...u can kiss that pay rate and work rules goodbye! Never assume any airline is safe from a CEO who has no clue how to run a company.

For an industry new hire, SW looks like they have been crushing the industry with their payrates and work rules. However, that is the perspective of todays industry snapshot, absent a historical perspective. A more important question is....

What has SW done specifically to further the momentum that legacy contracts provided pre-911...IOW..what part of their PWA today 14 years later has surpassed the legacy contracts of 2000??!! Correct me if Im wrong, but the SW contract today is a result of patterned pre-911 legacy contracts, and being fortunate enough (good mgt) for not filing bankruptcy.

Now more than ever the legacies need SW to capitalize on a TA that moves them significantly past DL. How is that negotiation going?

Bottom line: each airline will get their turn in the winners circle...that time is usually short-lived...but while u r there, that pilot group must carry the water for the industry in order for the ones that are reorganizing to pattern up from. Only then can the entire industry return to lifestyles enjoyed by the previous generations.

 

[General Lee]

Gee, highest paying plane 15 upgrades out of 12000 pilots. Maybe the 777 CAs can someday make what a 15 year SWA CAs make. Doubtful, however.

Uhhhhhh, when one guy moves up, 8 move up behind him/her. That's what happens when you have multiple fleet types without pay banding. With 7500 retirements scheduled in the next decade, don't you think there would be tons of movement? Juany, you so crazy!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[NuGuy]

Right now, "it depends".

Current upgrades have been in the mid-8000 range, which is 15-17 years, depending on which side of the merger you came from.

Even if it dips down to 9000, that's still 13-15 years.

Nu

 

[GoodTimes]

Wow! 15 years? I honestly thought upgrades were happening much sooner than that at Delta.

 

[General Lee]

Wow! 15 years? I honestly thought upgrades were happening much sooner than that at Delta.

It's not 15 years from now. It's 15 year pilots that have already been at DL through the age 65 hike, stagnation after BK, etc. DL will retire 7500 pilots over the next ten years, so it's unlikely anyone hired now will have to wait that long. But, there are other options at the legacies too, like becoming senior in category and making more money as a senior Widebody FO and not having to sit reserve on a narrowbody left seat. There are many ways to make more money at a legacy, you just have to ask around. You can go into training, you can stay on a smaller plane and gather greenslips, etc. Plenty of options.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Mercyful Fate]

It's not 15 years from now. It's 15 year pilots that have already been at DL through the age 65 hike, stagnation after BK, etc. DL will retire 7500 pilots over the next ten years, so it's unlikely anyone hired now will have to wait that long. But, there are other options at the legacies too, like becoming senior in category and making more money as a senior Widebody FO and not having to sit reserve on a narrowbody left seat. There are many ways to make more money at a legacy, you just have to ask around. You can go into training, you can stay on a smaller plane and gather greenslips, etc. Plenty of options.



Bye Bye---General Lee

7500 pilots over the next 10 years, 50 seaters going to the sand, and 88 sweet 717's coming online. Faaaaaaaantastic!

 

[General Lee]

7500 pilots over the next 10 years, 50 seaters going to the sand, and 88 sweet 717's coming online. Faaaaaaaantastic!

You are reading my mind! All true facts. Thanks!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

like becoming senior in category and making more money as a senior Widebody FO Bye Bye---General Lee

widebody as in fat boy, eating those chocolate sundaes at DQ after firehouse bingo night w/ mom :laugh:

 

[General Lee]

widebody as in fat boy, eating those chocolate sundaes at DQ after firehouse bingo night w/ mom :laugh:

Actually with your Mom, and then we had terrible sex. (Her fault)


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

weak Jennifer, weak...but thanks for playing putz.

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Actually with your Mom, and then we had terrible sex. (Her fault)


Bye Bye---General Lee

Wow, and you claim to have a wife. So a liar and a cheater. You are one worthless piece of skin