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180ToTheMarker said:
Makes sense to me. CVG has long been profitable for DAL. Its expensive to fly outta there. Do any LCC's even serve CVG?
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No LCC, unless you count US airways.

I thought it was supposed to be expensive to, but when I went to purchase a ticket I got a round trip CVG direct to MCO for 250 bucks (first thought that went through my mind was no wonder we aren't making money)...that included all taxes. I was fairly surprised I was budgeting for double that, not that I'm complaining.
 
wmuflyguy said:
No LCC, unless you count US airways.

I thought it was supposed to be expensive to, but when I went to purchase a ticket I got a round trip CVG direct to MCO for 250 bucks (first thought that went through my mind was no wonder we aren't making money)...that included all taxes. I was fairly surprised I was budgeting for double that, not that I'm complaining.
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MCO might have had something to do with it...Alot of folks drive to DAY to catch AirTran DAY-MCO non-stop. Delta has to have cheap fares to compete with the non-stops outta DAY. I assume everyting else is pricey.
 
I've read the letter attributed to Anderson.

What do you think it would read? Something like this?

"After merging, we intend to discontinue our hub operations at CVG and directly and indirectly cause the loss of 20,000 jobs in your area. Thanks for your support as we pursue ongoing efforts to increase our bonuses."

I'm not saying CVG will be impacted either positively or negatively by a merger. I'm just asking everyone consider the source...a company that took Comair through bankruptcy during a time when Comair management under oath stated the company was projected to earn $50 million in the same year the bankruptcy was filed.
 
The day before NWA and DAL filed CH11 they said they had not considered it. Think of all the things airlines mgmts have said in the last few years that turned out to be untrue. The only thing you can be sure of is CVG is here today. Let tomorrow worry about tomorrow.
 
wmuflyguy said:
No LCC, unless you count US airways.

I thought it was supposed to be expensive to, but when I went to purchase a ticket I got a round trip CVG direct to MCO for 250 bucks (first thought that went through my mind was no wonder we aren't making money)...that included all taxes. I was fairly surprised I was budgeting for double that, not that I'm complaining.
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That's the exception.....CVG is bad in general, Delta out of there is even worse....EYW to DAY and back was $700 less per ticket than out of CVG...it was much easier to justify coming home for the weekend to the boss with those savings
 
With the several LCC's operating within 90 minutes and the prices that Delta charges CVG is mostly a pass through hub. I have seen several articles in recent years talking about the lack of O&D traffic for Delta at that hub.
 
V-1 said:
I've read the letter attributed to Anderson.

What do you think it would read? Something like this?

"After merging, we intend to discontinue our hub operations at CVG and directly and indirectly cause the loss of 20,000 jobs in your area. Thanks for your support as we pursue ongoing efforts to increase our bonuses."

I'm not saying CVG will be impacted either positively or negatively by a merger. I'm just asking everyone consider the source...a company that took Comair through bankruptcy during a time when Comair management under oath stated the company was projected to earn $50 million in the same year the bankruptcy was filed.
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Newsbreak*********************

For all practical purposes, CVG has already shut down! Look at the mainline flights today, compared to just a few years ago.

SLC is next! If there is a merger, CVG will not be needed as MSP and Detroit are too close. SLC will not be needed, as LAX and Seattle will survive. There is very little originating traffic in SLC.
 
masedogg19 said:
That's the exception.....CVG is bad in general, Delta out of there is even worse....EYW to DAY and back was $700 less per ticket than out of CVG...it was much easier to justify coming home for the weekend to the boss with those savings
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Who the hell is operating between EYW and DAY?!!!
 
Speedtape said:
Newsbreak*********************

For all practical purposes, CVG has already shut down! Look at the mainline flights today, compared to just a few years ago.

SLC is next! If there is a merger, CVG will not be needed as MSP and Detroit are too close. SLC will not be needed, as LAX and Seattle will survive. There is very little originating traffic in SLC.
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I don't see CVG or SLC closing because they are already scaled way back. I could see them becoming non domicile "mini hubs", or "virtual bases". But CVG is very valuable as a pass through for Delta from the Northeast (particularly with RJs to small cities... good for CMR). And DTW doesn't have the capacity to absorb all that feed, because the new NWA terminal is at capacity.

As for SLC, it's about 1500 miles from MSP, I'd say too far to be a competing hub. And SLC does have a lot of O&D traffic what with the ski resorts, and LDS activities. Not to mention that SLC is growing like crazy and lot of companies are located there. SLC doesn't compete with LAX because most LAX stuff (like JFK) is transcon and int'l. SLC mostly feeds the inter mountain west with smaller planes (good for SKW). That won't change.
 
SLC is one of those metropolitan areas that doubles in size every few decades. Still, its a hub due to its proximity to the west coast, not for local traffic. The majority of passengers are there just to connect to another flight.

If you think LAX and SLC have similiar roles for Delta, you're only showing your own ignorance and you might want to refrain from the "newsbreak" comments to avoid digging yourself into a hole.
 
time builder said:
If you think LAX and SLC have similiar roles for Delta, you're only showing your own ignorance and you might want to refrain from the "newsbreak" comments to avoid digging yourself into a hole.
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:confused: Ignorance? I said LAX and SLC are NOT similar in that LAX is mostly transcon and int'l and SLC is a feeder for the inter mountain west.

Reading & comprehension? Apparently Hooked on Phonics didn't work for you.
 
Why is CVG so expensive to fly out of? I've heard one story that it's taxes for both Kentucky and Cincinnati
 
Easy there John, speaking of misreading...... My response was to Speedtape, not you. Pardon me for trying to supplement your response.
 
time builder said:
Easy there John, speaking of misreading...... My response was to Speedtape, not you. Pardon me for trying to supplement your response.
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Ok, well if that the case, I apologize, but excuse me for mistaking. You did after all, not say who you were responding to, nor quote the post. Also, your post came right after mine. Why wouldn't I think you were responding to me?
 
Additonally, if the argument is that SLC traffic would be handled by MSP, think back a couple years when Delta had to decide between SLC and DFW. Location was more important than locally originating traffic.

Also, by Speedtape's reasoning, United would have closed Denver a long time ago where they have two west coast hubs (SFO and LAX) and one in the northern midwest (ORD).

There were a couple scenarios which I felt did threaten Delta's SLC hub (United and USAir in particualr), but I don't think an NWA merger would have nearly the same implications.

Anyway, don't mean to hijack a CVG thread by talking about SLC.
 

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