Delta TA Is OUT!!

[Ace757]

Ok, the Delta TA was released tonight in a 40 page PDF. Will somone post it on here? We are all waiting!!!

 

[av8n]

Here is a portion of the TA.​

C.​

Section 1​

SCOPE​

Amend​

Section 1 B. 17. c. to read: :​

c. one of up to 200 jet aircraft configured with 51-70 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less (“70-seat jets”).​

Add a new

Section 1 B. 17. d. and e. to read:​

d. beginning January 1, 2007 one of up to the number specified in the chart below jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less (“76-seat jets”). The number of 76-seat jets may be increased above the number specified in the chart below by three 76-seat jets for each aircraft above the number of aircraft in the fleet operated by the Company (in service, undergoing maintenance and operational spares) as of January 1, 2007. The number and type of aircraft in the fleet on January 1, 2007

will be provided to the Association in writing no later than January 15, 2007. Such a report will also be provided to the Association at the scheduled quarterly financial update. The number of 70-seat jets plus 76-seat jets permitted by​

Section 1 B. 17. may not exceed 200. Once the number of permitted 76-seat jets is established, it will not be reduced except as provided in the Note below.

Letter #51 Bankruptcy Restructuring Agreement T/A​

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Year Permitted 76-seat Jets​

2007 15​

2008 and beyond 30


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Note: If a pilot on the seniority list as of June 1, 2006 (​

i.e., Troy Kane and above) isplaced on furlough after April 13, 2006, the Company will convert all 76-seat jets for operation as 70 seat jets.​

e. A carrier that operates any of the 70- or 76-seat jets not being operated as of November 1, 2004, may do so only if that carrier and the Company have agreed to terms for a preferential hiring process for pilots furloughed by the Company (i.e., a pilot furloughed by the Company will be given preferential hiring at a Delta Connection Carrier if he completes all new hire paper work, meets all new hire airman and medical qualifications, satisfies background checks and successfully completes an interview). The Company will offer preferential interviews for employment to airmen employed by a Delta Connection Carrier that offers preferential hiring to furloughed pilots in accordance with this paragraph, subject to the Company’s objectives for diversity and experience among newly hired pilots. A pilot hired by a Delta Connection Carrier operating any of the 70 or 76-seat jets not being operated as of November 1, 2004 will not be required to resign his Delta seniority number in order to be hired by such carrier.​

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[Ace757]

How many 700's does DCI have now? What would be the net gain in aircraft. ASA only has 35 of them I believe.

 

[~~~^~~~]

General - Yet another "I told you so."

General:

Do you remember the original concession demand from management, I think it was back in December? It seemed like it was 200 CRJ-700's (up from the current limit of 125) and was it 60 aircraft up to 78 seats? I don't remember management ever actually making a 90 seat propposal at DCI. The rumors I'm hearing now are close to identical with the seat limit rolled back to 76.... I'm also hearing furlough protection and growth guarantees to unlock the DCI scope changes.

 

[Vastly Underemp]

ooooooooooooo, "preferential" interviewing at the regional if you get furloughed! Now there's something to get excited about!

 

[Lollie]

Weren't you guys promised a graduated pay raise last time your pay was cut so much? Now think they can offer this false promise again? I'm wondering what will happen in a few years, the contract will just be thrown out? How can anyone trust a contract if it's not binding in reality????? I cannot believe our judicial system!

Lollie

 

[HarryParatestes]

It will be voted in. At least 50.1% are scared of losing their jobs forever. Now DALPA has joined the Race to the Bottom.

 

[AA717driver]

Now DALPA has joined the Race to the Bottom.

They haven't just joined, they've WON! TC

 

[dojetdriver]

They haven't just joined, they've WON! TC

They won a while back with United and USair's cuts.

 

[Geronimo4497]

I love the "certificated in the United States" line. This whole slide is far from over, IMO. Here come the foreigners. :angryfire

 

[Lollie]

Pardon me, are you insulting immigrant pilots?

Lollie

 

[Camembert]

I love the "certificated in the United States" line. This whole slide is far from over, IMO. Here come the foreigners. :angryfire

Speaking of foreigners, why don't you join the Air France family now before Delta liquidates? We have a good contract and you will get to fly an Airbus which is the best airplane in the world. We will take over the US market in the next few years anyway, so you guys might as well be ahead of the game and join now!

http://photos.airliners.net/photos/photos/6/3/2/0991236.jpg

You cannot be prouder than being a pilot for Air France.

Camembert

 

[Occam's Razor]

I'm a bit surprised that they deleted Section 1.E (fragmentation). That's the stuff that protects pilots in the event their company tries to sell off a portion of the operation (eg: all the "Song" aircraft, the MD's, the Atlantic, etc).

I could envision a scenario that has DAL selling off an asset to mollify a creditor, or to raise cash.

I thought keeping it was one of the smarter things the NWA negotiators did in our T/A.

 

[MDPilot]

1E is Block Hour Plans and Planned Percentages, Fragmentation is 1K

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Speaking of foreigners, why don't you join the Air France family now before Delta liquidates? We have a good contract and you will get to fly an Airbus which is the best airplane in the world. We will take over the US market in the next few years anyway, so you guys might as well be ahead of the game and join now!

http://photos.airliners.net/photos/photos/6/3/2/0991236.jpg

You cannot be prouder than being a pilot for Air France.

Camembert

Fromage?

 

[Occam's Razor]

1E is Block Hour Plans and Planned Percentages, Fragmentation is 1K

D'oh!

Thanks for the clarification! I mixed my alphabet.

The blockhour floor is gone?

Not good.

 

[Lollie]

Cam, is he just flame-baiting? That would be sad in my case...if he really knew me!

Lollie

 

[C601]

Is the new TA acceptable or not to DA pilots ? Will they still go forward with the strike ?

 

[warbirdfinder]

Posted by Camembert:
You cannot be prouder than being a pilot for Air France.

Unless of course you were are an arms dealer selling to Iraq or an oil broker buying from Iraq during the UN embargo.

 

[doh]

Is the new TA acceptable or not to DA pilots ? Will they still go forward with the strike ?

It is my understanding that they could go back to the table and fix the unacceptable sections rather than strike. A strike is only promised if the contract is rejected.

 

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By the time that happens Delta could very well be part of another airline and the acquiring airline's contract would probably prevail. The pilots might consider doing what they have to do to get Delta merged into a carrier with a chance of survival. Delta desperately needs new management and while I do not like Northwest's management an America West / US Air style deal is a very real possibility - consumated with Northwest's management and Delta's name. Customers pretty much universally hate Northwest and Delta has a better reputation.