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list2002

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My sister called me yesterday and said that as she dropped off my brother at the airport 2 vans pulled up to the curb behind them and about 25-30 Delta pilots got out with signs about poor management and started picketing. I haven't been able to find info on this in the news or here. Wondering if any Atlanta locals knew the skinny.
 
list2002 said:
My sister called me yesterday and said that as she dropped off my brother at the airport 2 vans pulled up to the curb behind them and about 25-30 Delta pilots got out with signs about poor management and started picketing. I haven't been able to find info on this in the news or here. Wondering if any Atlanta locals knew the skinny.

If you didn't know what was taking place why did you start the thread as you did?

There is still almost 2 weeks until the deadline and then there will still be a ruling by the board then a court date.

It's called informational picketing.
 
list2002 said:
I haven't been able to find info on this in the news or here. .

Believe I saw an article on the ALPA web site about the picketing. The newspaper in Macon is the source.

Hoser
 
Here it 'tis:

Posted on Sat, Feb. 18, 2006
Delta pilots picket outside airline's terminal over pay-cut talks

By Harry R. Weber

ASSOCIATED PRESS

ATLANTA - More than two dozen Delta Air Lines Inc. pilots brought the fight over their contract to their employer's doorstep Friday as they held signs berating management for asking pilots to take more pay and benefit cuts while the company tries to get court approval for a controversial severance plan for officers.
The picketing at the passenger drop-off area outside Delta's terminal at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, the company's main hub, came after the pilots union and airline Thursday failed to agree on another round of concessions.
If negotiators for the pilots union and company can't reach a comprehensive deal on new concessions by March 1, a three-person panel would decide the company's request to reject the pilot contract so Delta can impose more than $300 million in cuts unilaterally.
The pilots union has said it will strike if its contract is thrown out. The company has warned a strike would put the nation's third-largest carrier out of business.
"The pilots are telling us they are extremely disappointed in Delta management and are tired of listening to management's demands," union spokesman John Culp said as rank-and-file members walked in a circle holding signs.
Some pilots held signs that said "career employees, turnstile management," and "it's not the cost of fuel, it's the lack of leadership." Another sign read: "Employee sacrifices should not enrich management."
Passengers at the world's busiest airport went about their business.
"This is informational picketing only and is not causing any disturbance to our service," Delta spokesman Bruce Hicks said.
Thursday, the union warned that if the bankruptcy court approves the severance payouts, it could hurt efforts to agree on more pilot concessions. Delta is asking for what could amount to $14 million in severance for officers and directors who are fired as part of the company's reorganization.
The Air Line Pilots Association said the Atlanta-based airline's Feb. 8 bankruptcy court request for the officer severance plan would be bad for employee morale.
Delta has been seeking $325 million in new concessions from its 6,000 pilots. It recently offered to lower the request to $315 million, including an 18 percent wage cut. The pilots are currently offering about $115 million in new annual concessions. Culp said Friday the parties' positions did not change at Thursday's negotiation session. More talks are scheduled for next week, he said.
In December, the pilots agreed to an interim wage cut of 14 percent and additional cuts equal to another 1 percent pay reduction to give the sides more time to reach a comprehensive, permanent deal.
In 2004, the pilots agreed to $1 billion in concessions, including a 32.5 percent wage cut, as part of a deal that was to last five years.
Delta has said the severance proposal has the support of the official committee of unsecured creditors in the airline's bankruptcy case, and a company spokesman has called it "conservative by industry standards."
A judge has not yet ruled on Delta's severance plan request, which the pilots union is asking be denied.
In its proposal, Delta asked the bankruptcy court's permission to reinstate its pre-bankruptcy severance practices for 144 officers and director-level employees.
Under the program, severance pay of six to 12 months would be granted to certain employees whose jobs are terminated because of specified organizational or business changes. Employees who quit or are fired for cause would not receive severance.
If all 144 employees were terminated under the program, the cost to Delta would be $14.2 million, the company has said. CEO Gerald Grinstein and Chief Operating Officer James Whitehurst would not participate in the program.
The company said failure to implement the severance plan could increase unwanted attrition among upper-level employees.
The severance works out to an average of about $100,000 per officer and director. The company estimates the total payout might be closer to $3 million based on 20 percent of officers and directors being terminated as part of its restructuring, but it currently doesn't know how many of the eligible employees might be let go, Hicks said.
Delta pilots who are furloughed get up to six months of pay depending on years of service, according the union, which says the company wants to reduce the furlough benefit to the equivalent of up to three months of pay.
Hicks said the pilots union asked for the arbitration process that would kick in if a comprehensive agreement can't be reached on new cuts, and it picked two of the three panel members.
 
list2002 said:
My sister called me yesterday and said that as she dropped off my brother at the airport 2 vans pulled up to the curb behind them and about 25-30 Delta pilots got out with signs about poor management and started picketing. I haven't been able to find info on this in the news or here. Wondering if any Atlanta locals knew the skinny.

Yes, we had 20-30 pilots walking the curb and getting some good face time in front of the cameras etc. I had a turn and missed it. This is all part of the process to get the company to negotiate.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
list2002 said:
...yesterday...about 25-30 Delta pilots got out with signs about poor management and started picketing.

That sure isn't a news flash for anyone in the free world, let alone passengers going into battle at Hartsfield.

Delta pilots will win it or loose it the court room, not on the curb. Interesting they are taking a stand.
 
I hope they strike stand up the to mangement. If any of use wanna get off the food stamps someone is going to have to stand up the airlines. Strike!!!!
 
Good on the pilots out there picketing.

I've worked for DL for 10 years now (not a DL pilot) and have generally held a favorable disposition towards the company's management. No more. While I have and still do think that significant paycuts from pilots and all other DL employees is necessary for survival these severance packages at this particular point in time are beyond the pale. I'm facing my 4th round of layoffs soon now and the current behavior of Delta management is absolutely disgusting. For me these 'severance packages' are just the tip of the iceberg.

I REALLY hope it does not come to a strike - it will probably cost me my job if they do however I can no longer say I blame our pilots if they walk.
 
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General Lee said:
Yes, we had 20-30 pilots walking the curb and getting some good face time in front of the cameras etc. I had a turn and missed it.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Maybe because the rest of your pilot group has the good sense to not give the public the impression they are a bunch of dorks.
 
The threat of a strike is all the pilot group has left. Operating in BK leaves labor with few options.

The real question is will they do it?
 
ultrarunner said:
Delta pilots will win it or loose it the court room, not on the curb. Interesting they are taking a stand.

Actually, the current 1113 motion won't be decided in the court room, since both the company and the pilots agreed to have a 3 man board decide on the 1113 motion. In the end though, I believe the final PWA will be a result of the level of resolve of the DAL pilots to take it to the curb. Time will tell what the final outcome will be.
 
Thanks for the straightening out. Good atricle Hoser, my sister was really impressed by the "storm trooper" picketing, and now I know it was picketing, not striking. Best to Delta.
 
list2002 said:
Thanks for the straightening out. Good atricle Hoser, my sister was really impressed by the "storm trooper" picketing, and now I know it was picketing, not striking. Best to Delta.

Is she hot?

Can she come out and join the ASA pilots at the Atlanta Airport on Wednesday?

Looking forward to wearing out my shoes...
 
-9Capt said:
The threat of a strike is all the pilot group has left. Operating in BK leaves labor with few options.

The real question is will they do it?

Yes!

I haven't talked to a pilot yet who is not willing to strike. We don't know what form it would take - massive, selective, rolling.

More importantly, if Management is successful in its scope requests, many FO's will quit rather than wait for the next round of furloughs (with little benefits).
 

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