Delta posts a record $1.37 Billion third quarter profit, also small refinery profit

[jetflier]

Time to get a new union, one that wants to enhance the careers of Delta Pilots. Record profits should boost pilots work rules, compensation and quality of life. APLA has proven that they can't do it, for whatever reason.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

You are the minority Jetflier.....

I wouldn't put any trust in the hasbeens and amateurs out parading around our property like they can fix things. We can do better is a slick slogan, but a horrible mission statement for the DPA.

 

[Dan Roman]

Time to get a new union, one that wants to enhance the careers of Delta Pilots. Record profits should boost pilots work rules, compensation and quality of life. APLA has proven that they can't do it, for whatever reason.

Just curious, why do you think changing the capital letters old the union that represents you would change anything? You would still have the same pilot group. Seems to me it doesn't matter what the name of the union is, it's the membership that decides what they accomplish.
One thing you could count is being represented by a house divided for the rest of your career, at least you could make gains like USAPA has.

 

[EV120]

Didn't DALPA have to opportunity 13+ years ago to make all flying "in house" and the idea was shot down?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Didn't DALPA have to opportunity 13+ years ago to make all flying "in house" and the idea was shot down?

Nope,

Unless you are speaking of the huge land grab the Comair clowns tried to pull off with date of hire.....

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Point those weren't DELTA employees. Sorry, they are just contractors.

Point,
Do you really think that when they are done with those "contractors" you won't be in the crosshairs next?
Just a couple of decades ago, mainline pilots everywhere were stabbed in the tater, by management, and when they finish with the regionals you will be moved back to the top position of the "to do" list. Prepare for the pain.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Time to get a new union, one that wants to enhance the careers of Delta Pilots. Record profits should boost pilots work rules, compensation and quality of life. APLA has proven that they can't do it, for whatever reason.

You gonna be the MEC chair? Didn't think so, probably conflict with your crochet/knitting schedule. Read what you posted, if it wasn't a joke, you are either a management shill, or "plane" stupid.

 

[Twisted Mind]

Bill,

They aren't Delta employees. Well now who could argue with that logic? We have people willing to fly DC-9-10 sized airplanes for $35K a year and poor benefits. But Delta pilots DESERVE to fly DC-9-88's for $130k and good benefits/ work rules.

There is 2 ways to get contract improvements.
1. Leverage- Strike/ work action. The National Labor relation board is not going to allow a strike at Delta.

2. Trade/ sell- What are you willing to give up for a pay raise?

 

[HowardBorden]

Just curious, why do you think changing the capital letters old the union that represents you would change anything? You would still have the same pilot group. Seems to me it doesn't matter what the name of the union is, it's the membership that decides what they accomplish.

When two separate groups of workers are paying dues to the same national union all while vying for a larger portion of the production output and the increased compensation and growth associated with those gains; one can argue that each side would be better represented by a union which only focuses on their specific needs as opposed to one attempting to further both groups agendas.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Bill,

They aren't Delta employees. Well now who could argue with that logic? We have people willing to fly DC-9-10 sized airplanes for $35K a year and poor benefits. But Delta pilots DESERVE to fly DC-9-88's for $130k and good benefits/ work rules.

There is 2 ways to get contract improvements.
1. Leverage- Strike/ work action. The National Labor relation board is not going to allow a strike at Delta.

2. Trade/ sell- What are you willing to give up for a pay raise?

I agree with all you said but Number two gives me pause.....

No need to give up anything to recover from a Bankruptcy era contract. Part of the reason I voted no this last go-around.....too much given up for gain. But "we" voted for it.....