Delta/Northwest merger may lead to reduction of 50-seat RJs

[joe_pilot]

Yea it did. I see a pair of them in CLT every once in awhile. Heard some NACAR racing team own 2 of them.

Sharp looking birds. (Saab 2000's that is)

I used to based at JQF, Joe Gibbs racing has 2 of them there. Line service guys hated him, but that's another story...

 

[WSurf]

I used to based at JQF, Joe Gibbs racing has 2 of them there. Line service guys hated him, but that's another story...

Thanks! I heard rumors about them.

Why did they hate them?

 

[Flying Illini]

You can't??? But EMB170's are a cash cow or golden goose?!? Thanks for the economic lesson! Maybe they should replace all those 50 seaters for those EMB's that you fly.

Thanks for bringing the profits to Delta.

Holy ********************. Another flightinfo winner, huh?

I don't know if my airplane makes money, but I know it has a better CASM than a 145. How do I know this? You can read all about it on numerous internet sites, or you can just look at what's happening in the industry. People are getting away from 50 seat a/c. They are very difficult to make money with.

BTW, are you jealous of what I fly? If so, you can have it. I could care less what I'm sitting in. My original post had nothing to do with "My airplane is bigger than yours, therefore it's better." How childish are you?

 

[Flying Illini]

Sensing the sarcasm...........

You are right. He has expounded on us all with his knowledge. It's more like he feels so superior because he rides right side on that mighty EMB170! You know, a real airliner!!!

Seriously??!??!

Don't put words into my mouth.

As an FYI, had Republic put me into the 145 or the CRJ when I was hired on, I still would have said the same thing that I did in my original post.

 

[Flying Illini]

We should give Illini the Republic guy a break. He just got out of college and is flying the biggest and best POS on the block. He has been on line for two months now what an idiot.

Ooooooorrrrrrr I flew corporate and freight for the last 5 years before flying for Republic.

But what do I know...

 

[WSurf]

Ooooooorrrrrrr I flew corporate and freight for the last 5 years before flying for Republic.

But what do I know...

Corporate and Freight for 5 years, now he is an expert on the Airline Industry. Easy on him!

 

[rogerwilcoout]

Corporate and Freight for 5 years, now he is an expert on the Airline Industry. Easy on him!

And you are a book of knowledge because you fly the dash ! Too funny ! You would be the lesson in what NOT to do ! lol

 

[WSurf]

And you are a book of knowledge because you fly the dash ! Too funny ! You would be the lesson in what NOT to do ! lol

Since I am flying a plane that burns less fuel. Hmmm, With pref. Hiring at US Airways, well..... Probably better then what your doing.

 

[dwhsunday]

Wsurf

Truly an idiot who wishes flight attendants respected him.

 

[WSurf]

Truly an idiot who wishes flight attendants respected him.

Your mom respects me however.. and thats what matters. LOL

 

[WSurf]

Truly an idiot who wishes flight attendants respected him.

Respect! And this from a person that makes 23.00 in the rightseat of a EMB-175. Lovely, just Lovely!

 

[deadstick]

You guys do know that Bombardier makes a Q300, right?

There was in AIN article awhile back what mentioned that BB was looking at replacing the current Q300 with a 46-56 (I can't recall the exact numbers) seats and extending the Q400 to a 90-ish pax version. Also in the article was a bit from ATR and that it was looking at scrapping the 42/72 designs and starting over with a new single base airframe with 40-50/70/90 pax configurations. I was just thinking Saab might be looking a getting a piece of this action.

 

[DoinTime]

There was in AIN article awhile back what mentioned that BB was looking at replacing the current Q300 with a 46-56 (I can't recall the exact numbers) seats and extending the Q400 to a 90-ish pax version. Also in the article was a bit from ATR and that it was looking at scrapping the 42/72 designs and starting over with a new single base airframe with 40-50/70/90 pax configurations. I was just thinking Saab might be looking a getting a piece of this action.

The current Q300 is certified for 56 seats (50 seats is the most common config). The Q200 is the same size as current Dash 8-200. I have heard about ATR getting back into the game. It will be interesting to see what they make.

I doubt you will see Saab getting back into the civilian business. Turboprops have always been cheaper than RJs but the operators with RJs were able to charge a premium when they were competing in a prop market. Now that everyone has RJs there is no competitive advantage unless props start getting widespread again.

Turboprops are great but its still unknown if the marketplace will accept them back into widespread usage. Even the cream of the turboprop crop, Q-series, has the same crappy cabin as the CRJ.

 

[deadstick]

Now that everyone has RJs there is no competitive advantage unless props start getting widespread again.

Turboprops are great but its still unknown if the marketplace will accept them back into widespread usage. Even the cream of the turboprop crop, Q-series, has the same crappy cabin as the CRJ.

To once again see black on the balance sheet, airlines have to find a way of reducing cost unless deregulation goes away. The comfort of the pax is secondary to how many of them the airline can cram in a plane and how much it costs the airline to run the flight. People might rethink the curse of the turboprop if the everthing is the same, but the RJ flight costs $200 more.

It's all about the Benjamins...imp:

 

[WSurf]

MONTREAL — Bombardier Inc. is phasing out production of its Q200 and Q300 Dash 8 turboprop aircraft, made at the company's facility in Downsview, Ont.

The company said this morning that job losses will be minimal because most of the work will be transferred to the expanding Q400 program.

The Q200 and Q300 seat 37 and 50 people, respectively.

Montreal-based Bombardier has been focused on expanding its Q400 program. The aircraft seats 78 passengers.


A total of 950 people work on the Q200, Q300 and Q400 programs at Downsview, said Bombardier Aerospace spokesman Marc Duchesne.

The Q200 and Q300 backlog now stands at 17 planes and the assembly line will come to a stop in May of 2009 when the final delivery is made, said Mr. Duchesne.