Delta, Northwest could announce merger in next week

[GogglesPisano]

Mongo just pawn, in game of life.

 

[General Lee]

General....

Those two words are the most useless two words in any aviation contract. I don't give a rats arse if its for oil, economic or whatever else you want to put in the contract to give yourself a warm and fuzzy... .but management will do what they want, when they want, however the heck they want and there's nothing any employee group can do about it. Good luck over there with your wonderful scope and no furlough clause..............

Sure, they could furlough, but an arbitrator will come back and award the furloughed time off with pay. It happened before, and could happen again. Sorry, but if a no furlough clause includes the economy and fuel prices, you will have to PROVE it was for something else.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Tanker Clown]

You spineless clowns will fold on your no furlough clause. Everyone knows that...especially your mgt.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Tanker you are a piece of work. Go back to flight sim, I know the military will not let you fly today... To many clouds in the sky.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

CLK08.NYMCrude Oil May 08110.80 4:21pm ET

2.30 (2.12%)

Wake up people, we are out of time.

 

[nwaredtail]

CLK08.NYMCrude Oil May 08110.80 4:21pm ET

2.30 (2.12%)

Wake up people, we are out of time.

And merging 2 airlines, while pissing of 40% of the pilots, will make the price of oil come down?

Good plan!!!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

No silly. We have been through this before. It is about having the ability to have the pricing power to charge what we cost.

 

[Tanker Clown]

How does a merger change pricing power? The fact of the matter is that any of the same city pairs that Air Tran serves, Delta has to match. Delta can't compete with Air Tran on costs. Unless you guys take another big fat pay cut.

Any capacity cut with a merger will result (in additon to furloughs of DAL/NWA guys) in a surge of the likes of SWA and Air Tran. This merger will on serve to hasten the dramatic decline of Delta's domestic operation.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

How does a merger change pricing power? The fact of the matter is that any of the same city pairs that Air Tran serves, Delta has to match. Delta can't compete with Air Tran on costs. Unless you guys take another big fat pay cut.

Any capacity cut with a merger will result (in additon to furloughs of DAL/NWA guys) in a surge of the likes of SWA and Air Tran. This merger will on serve to hasten the dramatic decline of Delta's domestic operation.

Which part of Delta's domestic operation? Comair, Skywest, ASA, Pinnacle, American Eagle, Freedom.

Get my point? Delta hardly has a domestic operation. This is your opportunity to staple Comair and Compass and take it back.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Which part of Delta's domestic operation? Comair, Skywest, ASA, Pinnacle, American Eagle, Freedom.

Get my point? Delta hardly has a domestic operation. This is your opportunity to staple Comair and Compass and take it back.

I forget, was it Pan Am or Eastern that had no domestic feed at the end?

 

[rghods]

Whats gone happen to the NW new hirs in pool ?

 

[Tanker Clown]

Whats gone happen to the NW new hirs in pool ?

They'll be going into the furlough pool.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Maybe if this path continues

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

The fact of the matter is that any of the same city pairs that Air Tran serves, Delta has to match. Delta can't compete with Air Tran on costs.

Shows how much you know. I was sitting not ten feet from the CEO of Airtran when he said that under no circumstances can Airtran compete with Delta out of Atlanta. Their business resides in Moline and Akron. Now, go back and start enjoying retirement instead of living vicariously through Flightinfo. Sad really.

 

[rghods]

very funny !

 

[Tanker Clown]

Shows how much you know. I was sitting not ten feet from the CEO of Airtran when he said that under no circumstances can Airtran compete with Delta out of Atlanta. Their business resides in Moline and Akron. Now, go back and start enjoying retirement instead of living vicariously through Flightinfo. Sad really.

Hey smart guy, is this the same CEO that's in contract negotiations with his pilots? SWA is by far the most profitable airline out there, but their mgt is telling thier folks that the sky is falling. Hmmm....that's odd isn't it? I wonder if that's because they have several labor groups in contract negotiations (including the pilots).

It would be hard to get leverage with your pilot group if he came out and said: "We're killing Delta in ATL."

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

Touchy aren't we?

 

[Tanker Clown]

Not really. I bet Anderson will tell his pilots "We can't compete with Air Tran out of ATL on costs. I'm gonna need another 20% boys."

Shoot. Maybe the two CEOs get together at a local ATL Waffle House and plan out these little comments that get overheard by pilot groups.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Problem is that AAI costs are becoming more in line with DAL's. They will have liquidity issues in the not to distant future.
When you start seeing system wide fare sales every week, that is when they need cash now.

 

[Cobra17]

Reich

Not really. I bet Anderson will tell his pilots "We can't compete with Air Tran out of ATL on costs. I'm gonna need another 20% boys."

Shoot. Maybe the two CEOs get together at a local ATL Waffle House and plan out these little comments that get overheard by pilot groups.

T Klown...I so hope you are a democrat...your avatar bears a striking resemblance to Robert Reich....and not in a good way.