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For those who are interested, here's the latest on Delta's Fleet plans.

Delta Fleet Facts

Aircraft Orders.

Firm with delivery dates and Ship Numbers

2007- 2Q 2009: 24 B737-800s, 5 B777s

Options- 2Q 2009

22 B737-800s, 3 B767-300s, 3 B767-400s, 1 B777

Conversions to ER category currently underway:

B767-300 (type code 76S
)
Ship numbers 1701 & 1708 are currently being modified to 767ER (type code 76L) seating and galleys. These Ship numbers have been moved to the 76L row. All other 76S ships will be modified to remove 2YC seats, making a new configuration of 24FC/226YC. This program will be complete by March 31st, 2006. Ships 1702 to 1707 will undergo the International modifications between March and June 2006


February 23, 2006


FLEET RENEGOTIATIONS (note as of today all mainline aircraft have renegotiated leases except for 11 mainline aircraft)
Restructuring plans for over 90% of the mainline fleet and over a third of regional jets have been agreed or otherwise implemented with aircraft financing parties, subject to court approval
Delta is leveraging the court process to retire four fleet types by the end of 2006. As previously announced, those fleet types are the 732, 733, 762 and 73G
Delta has rejected leases on previously grounded aircraft, including the MD-11 and Fairchild 328JET aircraft
EXISTING PRODUCT ENHANCEMENTS
Convert 48 Song 757s into two class and integrate back into the mainline fleet by end of 2006
Expand in-seat IFE to long-haul flights on the 737-800 and 767-300 fleets by 2008
Upgrade Business Elite (recondition seat and IFE system) product on the existing 767 and 777 fleets by Spring of 2007
Transition eight 767-300ER and eight 767-400ER aircraft from domestic to international configuration, all with the new Business Elite product. The 300s will be completed by June 2006 and the 400s will be completed by May 2007
Reconditioned – upgraded seats, new rugs and laminates – over 55% of the mainline fleet with a goal to complete 85% by the end of 2006. The entire fleet will be reconditioned by May 2007
2007 GOAL
By end of 2006, we'll have about 440 mainline planes in our fleet
A comprehensive fleet plan to exit Chapter 11
Be ready to announce aircraft orders that will meet our fleet replacement and growth needs
Q&A

Overall, what is happening to the fleet? Are we pursuing wide-body aircraft to support our international expansion?


We have made tremendous progress in streamlining our fleet by taking advantage of the Chapter 11 process. We'll have retired four older, high maintenance and less fuel efficient 732, 733, 762 and 73G fleet types by the end of the year. We have also been able to eliminate the lease expense associated with some aircraft that Delta had previously grounded, such as the MD-11s and Fairchild 328JETs. With the integration of Song's 757s back into the mainline, we will be able to redeploy our long-range capable wide body aircraft into more profitable international destinations.
This gives Delta a unique ability to significantly grow our international franchise -- which diversifies and improves our revenue base -- over the next several years while other airlines are waiting for the next generation international wide-bodies (787 and A350) to enter service. Delta, as the world's largest operator of the 767, will need to begin replacement of that fleet early next decade (as well as growth aircraft) and we've already begun discussions with both Boeing and Airbus to understand the relative capabilities, economics, and customer attributes of their respective offerings.

How are we addressing the wide seat gap we'll have in our fleet between the CRJ-700 and the MD-88?

We have not determined that this gap is an issue that conflicts with the network initiatives we're implementing. Our current plan is to adjust aircraft type as well as frequency of flying to support any future changes in the network. That said, we are, at the same time, exploring possible alternatives that would economically make sense for us.

How are we going to fly to new destinations like Johannesburg with our existing fleet?

The redeployment of long-range capable 767s from domestic to international is allowing Delta to grow faster internationally than at any time since the PanAm acquisition. We plan to fly these routes with our 767-300ER fleet, which has the capability to fly from Atlanta to Johannesburg with a stop.
All information is accurate as of February 21, 2006


IFE Upgrade update
June 20, 2006


Delta is upgrading its in-flight entertainment system on longer domestic flights, and the enhanced offering was the focus of a segment of Tuesday's "Today Show" broadcast on NBC. With the first refurbished aircraft starting in early August, Delta will offer live television and MP3 audio programming in the coach and first class cabin. The newest amenity is a popular feature on former Song flights that is now being offered on mainline service. Tim Mapes, managing director-Marketing, comments during the Today segment that the new IFE availability is something our customers want to see. The refurbished system will eventually appear on most long-haul flights between Atlanta, Boston, Cincinnati and New York in the East and Los Angeles, San Francisco and Seattle in the West.


 
That sounds like great news for you guys, but how does this play out in the bankruptcy court? Do you see any problems with the Judge's approval of the aircraft deliveries and other intangibles?
 
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It says the 73G will be retired...what are they referring to? Couldn't be the -800s.
 
We killed your pension so we could buy aircraft with TVs, yee hawwww.
 
9rj9 said:
We killed your pension so we could buy aircraft with TVs, yee hawwww.

Delta pilots killed their pension and gave away much more as well. Nothing was taken from them. It was voluntarily given away.
 
I looked at the fleet information today. In addition to the firm orders FDJ2 listed, there are several options available in 08 and 09. I would be surprised if some of the options were not exercised.
 
Kharma Police said:
That sounds like great news for you guys, but how does this play out in the bankruptcy court? Do you see any problems with the Judge's approval of the aircraft deliveries and other intangibles?

Delta had to provide a plan to reorganization to the judge when we entered BK, the judge had to approve the plan and these orders are part of Delta's reorganization. It is also no secret that Delta is pursuing additional aircraft, specifically 757s and MD80 series aircraft. Although Delta is operating under bankruptcy protection, Delta has over $3.0B in cash.
 
FDJ2 said:
Although Delta is operating under bankruptcy protection, Delta has over $3.0B in cash.

But that $300+ million that they needed from pilots had they not gotten they would have liquidated!

(sarcasm)
 
GoABX said:
How many of the following does DAL have now?

767-200
767-300
757-200

Fleet Snap shot as of June 1, 2006

767-200: 0

767-300: 28

767-300er: 51

767-400: 21

757-200: 121
 
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FDJ2 said:
Fleet Snap shot as of June 1, 2006


767-300: 28

767-300er: 51

767-400: 21

The article said that DAL was the worlds largest operator of 767's from that snap shot I seriously beg to differ!
 
PowerRanger said:
The article said that DAL was the worlds largest operator of 767's from that snap shot I seriously beg to differ!

DAL has 100 B767s. Can you name a carrier with more than 100 B767s?

AA: 78
CAL: 26
UAL: 38
US: 10
 
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FDJ2 said:
For those who are interested, here's the latest on Delta's Fleet plans.

Delta Fleet Facts

Aircraft Orders.

Firm with delivery dates and Ship Numbers

2007- 2Q 2009: 24 B737-800s, 5 B777s

Options- 2Q 2009

22 B737-800s, 3 B767-300s, 3 B767-400s, 1 B777

Conversions to ER category currently underway:

B767-300 (type code 76S)
Ship numbers 1701 & 1708 are currently being modified to 767ER (type code 76L) seating and galleys. These Ship numbers have been moved to the 76L row. All other 76S ships will be modified to remove 2YC seats, making a new configuration of 24FC/226YC. This program will be complete by March 31st, 2006. Ships 1702 to 1707 will undergo the International modifications between March and June 2006


February 23, 2006


FLEET RENEGOTIATIONS (note as of today all mainline aircraft have renegotiated leases except for 11 mainline aircraft)
Restructuring plans for over 90% of the mainline fleet and over a third of regional jets have been agreed or otherwise implemented with aircraft financing parties, subject to court approval
Delta is leveraging the court process to retire four fleet types by the end of 2006. As previously announced, those fleet types are the 732, 733, 762 and 73G
Delta has rejected leases on previously grounded aircraft, including the MD-11 and Fairchild 328JET aircraft
EXISTING PRODUCT ENHANCEMENTS
Convert 48 Song 757s into two class and integrate back into the mainline fleet by end of 2006
Expand in-seat IFE to long-haul flights on the 737-800 and 767-300 fleets by 2008
Upgrade Business Elite (recondition seat and IFE system) product on the existing 767 and 777 fleets by Spring of 2007
Transition eight 767-300ER and eight 767-400ER aircraft from domestic to international configuration, all with the new Business Elite product. The 300s will be completed by June 2006 and the 400s will be completed by May 2007
Reconditioned – upgraded seats, new rugs and laminates – over 55% of the mainline fleet with a goal to complete 85% by the end of 2006. The entire fleet will be reconditioned by May 2007




767's still in production by 2009? Maybe by then, 787's instead I'm guessing?
 
Citrus531 said:
767's still in production by 2009? Maybe by then, 787's instead I'm guessing?

There are only firm orders for 3 additional 767-300ERs. I wouldn't be surprised to see DAL continue to accept those. As for the 787, I leave you with the following quote from a Transformation online Chat with the DAL COO.

When can we start thinking about ordering some 787s?

Jim Whitehurst Soon. We'll likely want to finalize a decision on our 763ER replacement prior to exiting bankruptcy. So there should be a lot on this starting late summer, early fall.
 
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GoABX said:
Any chance they'd sell any of the regular 300's?

I doubt anytime soon. With the exception of less than a dozen aircraft all leases have been renegotiated. If they wanted to let some of them go in the near term they would have done it by now.
 
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FDJ2 said:
DAL has 100 B767s. Can you name a carrier with more than 100 B767s?

AA: 78
CAL: 26
UAL: 38
US: 10

True. I guess with the 767 being the number one plane across the pond and Delta being the number one airline flying across the pond that DL would have something like 100-120 ER's.

With the popularity of the 777 I'm definately surprised at how few they have in comparison to AA but more specifcally UA.
 
PowerRanger said:
True. I guess with the 767 being the number one plane across the pond and Delta being the number one airline flying across the pond that DL would have something like 100-120 ER's.

With the popularity of the 777 I'm definately surprised at how few they have in comparison to AA but more specifcally UA.

Given DAL's current route structure a fleet of 767ERs probably makes more sense. However, if DAL's future route system includes more direct flights to India, Asia and South Africa more ultra long range aircraft such as the 777 and 787 will be required. JMO.
 
FDJ2 said:
I doubt anytime soon. With the exception of less than a dozen aircraft all leases have been renegotiated. If they wanted to let some of them go in the near term they would have done it by now.

I don't know if they've been sold or just sent to the junkyard, but
the -300's are gone from the active fleet.
 
Morning Wood said:
I don't know if they've been sold or just sent to the junkyard, but
the -300's are gone from the active fleet.

Not sure I see several 767-300's here in PHX doing the PHX-ATL/ATL-PHX run. I'm guessing that there 300's because the 300ER's are typically used for trans-atlantic flights!
 
Morning Wood said:
I don't know if they've been sold or just sent to the junkyard, but
the -300's are gone from the active fleet.

All 28 767-300s are in active service and will remain so. They are non-ERs and will fly in the domestic system. All 16 767-200s were recently retired.
 
Noserider76 said:
All 28 767-300s are in active service and will remain so. They are non-ERs and will fly in the domestic system. All 16 767-200s were recently retired.

...Thought so!
 
Morning Wood said:
I don't know if they've been sold or just sent to the junkyard, but
the -300's are gone from the active fleet.

Just to be clear, the 737-300s are gone, not the 767-300s.
 
Noserider76 said:
All 28 767-300s are in active service and will remain so. They are non-ERs and will fly in the domestic system. All 16 767-200s were recently retired.

Ships number 1701, 1702, 1707 and 1708 will be modified from 767-300 too 767-300ER.

B767-300 (type code 76S)
Ship numbers 1701 & 1708 are currently being modified to 767ER (type code 76L) seating and galleys. These Ship numbers have been moved to the 76L row. All other 76S ships will be modified to remove 2YC seats, making a new configuration of 24FC/226YC. This program will be complete by March 31st, 2006. Ships 1702 to 1707 will undergo the International modifications between March and June 2006
 
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