Delta, DFW and.... Skywest???!!!

[Troy208]

Could anyone perhaps shed some light on the following news !!!

Which Delta partner is all this flying going to?. I suspect Skywest

If so, How big is Skywest going to become? . Is much bigger equipment (ie.crj 900's) needed, or already in the cards.

Comments anyone?...please
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Delta's changes at DFW include
reducing mainline frequency

Jan. 15, 2003--Delta Air Lines said it will expand its hub at Dallas/Fort Worth by adding more flights, beginning with the kickoff of its spring schedule on April 6, 2003. The expansion will include adding 56 daily Delta Connection flights by May 2003, while reducing the number of mainline flights by 24 each day.

The hub expansion includes 13.3 percent more flights overall, Delta said, plus it will add two new connecting banks during peak hours.

The Delta Connection flights will be operated with regional jet aircraft, Delta said, including some 70-seat aircraft.

The scaling back of Delta's mainline service at DFW coincides with the retirement of the carrier's Boeing 727 fleet. Included in the cities where Delta will replace mainline jet flights with more frequent flights with smaller, Delta Connection-operated jets, are Houston, New Orleans, Denver, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Salt Lake City, Utah.

"Delta is significantly increasing the number of departures to give customers more convenient connections and expanded travel options while making adjustments to match capacity to the demand in these markets," said Subodh Karnik, Delta's senior vice president of network and revenue management. "Our customers, especially business travelers, tell us that frequency of service is very important to them."

 

[Medeco]

Your assumtion is incorrect about Skywest being the one.

Can you say...

ASA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!

Here we grow!

Actually in all seriousness, it is really just backfilling for Delta Mainline.

No disrespect meant for DAL furloughs.

ASA would be growing at least a little even without this situation.

Let me change that last statement, ASA would be going to new destinations.

Medeco

 

[Rogue5]

I have heard that SkyWest management is in discussions with its pilot's association with respect to possibly establishing a 70-130 seat aircraft payscale.

Still in the research phase though: Lots of things need to settle down with respect to scope clauses, which may or may not still exist in this Chapter 11 world we now live in...

It could be we'll see more and larger SkyWest jets east of the Mississippi in 2003.

 

[Troy208]

I have a gut feeling its Skywest. They are like the "Northwest" of

the regionals.

Conservative, tight-lipped, and lots of ca$h...

I think things are happening out at Salty lakes

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

Of the 56 new DCI flights out if DFW, Skywest is only getting 12 of them. That is until ASA and Comair can handle all of them. That was in a memo to the pilots of Comair from our President

Does any one have any idea why Delta sold all there interest in Skywest? It says in the last statement that they took a 66 million dollar gain from the sell of there Skywesy holdings..

 

[hotwing]

confused!

If this growth is about to occur, then why in the world did Pilot recruiting just tell me that they were not going to interview this year. I have had my application walked in for over 2 months now! I am confused here!

 

[avratdwc]

Now that there is a good chance ASA will be grabbing these additional routes, as mentioned above, will this cause them to have to push alot of the EMB 120 guys thru and then start interviewing again or will the surplus due to the phase out of the EMB guys cover these new routes?

 

[IFLYASA]

Supposedly all the Brasila's will be gone from ASA this summer. Therefore the EMB pilots will transfer to the RJ, maybe a few to the ATR, which will cause a hiring freeze until we play catch up. That's the latest from Skip...

 

[Troy208]

Of the 56 new DCI flights out if DFW, Skywest is only getting 12 of them. That is until ASA and Comair can handle all of them. That was in a memo to the pilots of Comair from our President

Lets see 12 out of 56, thats a hair over 20%...so between Comair

and ASA they absolutely cannot handle those 12 additional flights

by april 2003 ....mmmm ok.

Does any one have any idea why Delta sold all there interest in Skywest? It says in the last statement that they took a 66 million dollar gain from the sell of there Skywesy holdings..

Interesting..It could be that Skywessy prefers to be "independent" at this time.

UAL wants to emerge from Chp 11 at some point a "leaner meaner" carrier. They may have to shed some short to medium routes. Skywest may be in a good position to financially aquire some of these routes and make money.(less overheads etc).

Therefore, cutting a long story short...Why share the gravy?


People....comments please!!

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

TROY,
"Why share the gravy"? I don't understand. Skywest has no say in who buys or sells Skywest stock. Do you understand the market? Not attempting to be mean or rude, but unless I misunderstood you, it seems you don't.

As far as ASA routes and hiring, I certainly don't know much. What I do know is the same day they start the new service out of DFW, we are taking over 14 daily ASA flights out of ATL, two out of JFK and I think two or four out of DCA.
I must say ASA guys ,I am a little jealous. I grew up in Fort Worth and would consider leaving training to move back and fly out of DFW.

 

[Russ]

A fool and his money are soon parted. Anyone who believes that SkyWest's days as a major part of the Delta connection is over is kidding themselves. Never bet against SkyWest, you will lose. Is anyone really surprised that SLC is being overlapped? We knew the day we flew in DFW that fortress SLC was soon to be overlapped. I even have a few more routes out of SLC I would be happy to give to you, Butte Montana would be the first. Bottom line, the number of connection carriers is growing not shrinking as some would lead you to believe.

 

[Troy208]

"Why share the gravy"? I don't understand. Skywest has no say in who buys or sells Skywest stock. Do you understand the market? Not attempting to be mean or rude, but unless I misunderstood you, it seems you don't.

To answer your question..Yes

Deals are sometimes made on golf-courses and bars, not boardrooms
However, the point was: No ownership by DAL

Thank you for your comment

 

[Jeepman]

Hotwing,

Are you talking about ASA or Skywest. I asume ASA because last I heard we were still hiring.


As far as Delta growth I think ASA and comair our probably out growing us, that's o.k. though because were taking alot of United RJ's right know. One company people are forgetting about right now that is getting some growth is Chataqua (I think I spelled it right). I have heard that they are getting some Delta routes now as well. My guess is as time goes on Delta will have all their regional flying so overlapped that a strike at any one carrier wouldn't hurt them that bad.

As far as Delta selling Skywest stock it's probably just to get some cash & avoid the big B.

 

[hotwing]

ASA

Again-- I stated that recruitment stated on the phone "no new hires this year" (ASA)! Now, there is a posting out for new interviews! What gives?

 

[General Lee]

Jeepman,

As far a Delta going the "big b"---that probably won't happen---due to the fact that Delta has $2.6 Billion in cash and another $2 Billion to mortgage if needed. I think they made $121 million off the skywest stock, which was lost awhile ago I am sure. If things got really bad here at Delta, I am sure they would sell off ASA and Comair for the needed cash, and still operate them as feeders. And, as far as all of the new flying at DCI-----there was an increase of flying allowed at DCI from 36% of all flying to 44%, which is a large chunk--and good for all of the carriers involved. Mike Bell, the VP of Planning at Delta, stated that DFW was our "least profitable hub" at Delta, and you know how those guys are always looking for profits. There have been a lot of routes given to DCI from Delta---like 4 RJ's a day from DFW-DEN, two RJ's and a mainline flight now from DFW-PHX (used to be 3 mainline), some flights from DFW to JAX, and LIT, and 7 RJ's a day from DFW to MSY along with one mainline flight (was 3 mainline flights a day). But, Delta is also putting smaller planes on some key routes---like 11 daily mainline narrowbody aircraft--MD88/738-from DFW to ATL, and 4 daily flights from DFW-LAX( 3 738's and an MD90)--down from 4 757's a day. SFO-DFW will get 3 flights--2 737-300's and an MD90. (Used to be 757's and 738's) So, what are they doing? They are right sizing the routes. They are going to use the bigger planes (757's) on the new LCC to fight Southwest/Airtran/Jetblue. The 767-300ER's that used to fly domestically will now cover the parking of the MD11's on Europe. They are moving the planes around, and the only planes they are parking are the MD-11's (not all--3 will be kept for ATL--NRT), and the 727's---which numbered few anyways and have a lot of over age 60 FE's anyways. There is one good thing about the RJ growth at DFW---a lot of new routes are popping up. DFW to Daytona, Panama City,FL, Lexington, and Knoxville are all new flights---that bring Delta money. Other routes, like DFW to ORD or MCI haven't been flown by mainline in years, and it is good to see them help bring Delta money. So, that is why Delta is downsizing a little in DFW, and DCI is growing. It is good for all of us.

Bye Bye---General Lee