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Well to preface this, this particular Captain I was flying with is a major "better to have too much fuel, then too little" believer, and if it even gets marginal about having enough fuel, we always do a fuel diversion just to be safe. Even when the passengers complain and raise bloody h*ll with him about it. But this day, everything was conspiring against us it seemed!

The story in short goes: We had a setback at Customs where we were suppose to take on more fuel. No fuel was put on in the ensuing distractions. We ended up having 167 kt direct headwinds (248 kt GS!) all the way to our destination (changed from FL350 all the way to FL450 looking for better, but it kept getting worse.) Got put on an arrival that we couldnt negotiate a "direct to" clearance, and when the fuel situation turned critical is when they made us descend down to 15,000 feet, over 100+ miles out. About 50 miles out we start getting the Yellow Caution lights, and the "fuel at destination" was depleting it seemed like by the second. We finally declared "Min Fuel" but they still weren't cooperating with us. As we were being vectored onto the downwind, we were informed that we'd be #5 for landing out on a 25 mile final. We weren't feeling lucky anymore, so the "Emergency Fuel" gloves came out, and we got vectored right onto the numbers ahead of everyone else. On final all I remember doing was staring at the fuel tank indicator, and watching every number tick off, thinking to myself we might not have enough fuel for a go-around, and praying that nothing popped out in front of us on final. That and the annoying Yellow Caution kept going off every 5 seconds!

I do believe a couple years were taking off my life from the high blood pressure and stress that came during the last 20+ minutes of that flight when we realized it was going to be real marginal. To tell you how close it was, we were considering diverting to an airport that was only 30 miles outside of this town for fuel!

Now, I want to hear what on earth you've had to declare 6 emergencies for!
 
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6 EMERGENCIES here goes.... First was a explosive depressurization out of 310 for 350 ........ 2nd engine fire that we finally got contained after firing the second bottle....3rd patient ran out of oxygen in the back and was turning blue we were number 13, 14 or something going into STL....4th coming back from Spain we came thru Azores thru Gander then Miami . We were 35 miles north of bos at fl350 and patient had a heart attack .. declared an emergency controller cleared direct to the outer marker and down to 2000 feet.. 7 minutes later on the ground with about 1 minute heads up to custom and immigration...5th in Central America with 3 burned children on our way to Bedford Mas. We had total Hydraulic failure... Try finding 3 Airconditioned ambuances with advanced lifesupport in Central America on a moments notice. 6th First lost one engine on a 400 cessna series then the second engine started to run really bad ( turbo controller took a dump)at nite time imc.. On top of that I've had strut collapse on landing (no not from a hard landing) . brake failures. Guys pointing automatic weapons at us in South America. Psyco Army ranger going crazy in the back of the cabin.. You name it we probably happened to us happen to us..
 
Wow, sounds like you got some really great drinking stories Kilroy!

Doesn't seem like you've had to best of luck when it comes to flying, or maybe thats just par for the course with 7000+ hours!
 
With something like a hydraulic failure, you have the luxury of time (if your biceps are big enough . . . if not, use some CRM:cool: ).
True on a 737 or DC-9 but not on something like a 757/767...of course you would have to lose all three hydraulic systems to be screwed.
 
What type airplane was involved ? No one has mentioned that yet.
 
bafanguy said:
What type airplane was involved ? No one has mentioned that yet.
No idea what kind of aircraft it was. I was hoping to find out when I posted this instead I'm getting bashed by people like Ty.... Another thing that got my attention is that as some else in here stated the aircraft sometimes have 3 hydraulic systems so to loose them would be highly unlikely. So if you loose one hydraulic system in the airlines does that automatically make it an emergency. ??
 
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Losing one is pretty much an emergency. Losing two is a serious emergency, and would probably be referred to as "total hydraulic failure" if it's the A & the B systems. The third, standby, system is for the rudder only (and assorted other stuff -- Thrust Reversers & some brakes). If you lose A&B, you have manual reversion for ailerons & elevator & standby hyd for the rudder -- a serious handful.

If you lose the standby & either A or B, your flight controls will all be pretty normal, but you're still in a serious situation -- lose that one system & you have no control over your rudder -- very bad news.

That's all 737 stuff, your milage will vary with other jets.
 
Hugh Jorgan said:
There aren't very many of those left at Air Force bases. I can only think of Misawa and Kadena offhand, but most Navy bases still have them, I believe (I've been out of the loop for a piece). Careful though, I had a Marine try and put me in the dirt at Futemna one time.
I know that the flightline guard in the late 80's would have had a 4-10 shootgun in the back of you head while you face down on the ramp til the MP's showed up, in MCAS Beaufort.

Heheheheh
 
Gatorman, you really need to relax BRO..I grew up my entire life on the Military Turf and never spent more than what was required by the 06 in my family to actually serve......While growing up on various installations very close to our now Evil Axis I can tell you for certain that there are many loop holes or shall I say entry pts. enabling our enemy to circumnavigate our defenses.....That said, its time to close the holes.....Many of the MP's Ive seen overseas while a teenager were no where as clever as my buds and I who ran willllldd over the fortress....

Its time to get serious about defense, and no where better then to look at our dependents held hostage by the military that sets them free.

No more getting into our Chow Halls....My services are free for the USA.

Now what the heck was I supposed to mix this drink with.????
 
That's the pot calling the kettle black!

Ty Webb said:
7- Proclaimed a Village Idiot on a message Board by Ty Webb . . . . . :cool:
Why is it you always turn unrelated threads in to personal bash fest against other members?

Are you like this in operations at work?

I suppose your answer will be some smart a$$ reply about me.

Really Ty, these recess rantings are getting old and take away from the credibility of your posts.

It's nothing personal against you, I just would appreciate it if you kept your posts more professional in tone and content.

Respectfully,

Jeff
 
Nothing wrong with 121.5...

CaptBud330 said:
Why wouldn't a comercial airliner declare an emergency on 121.5? We guard 121.5 at all times crossing the pond. You know something I don't know?
132.65 is Houston Center over A766/UA766

123.75 for Merida Center near N2530

Sometimes it is hard to raise either center on VHF, especially at or below FL280.

130.7 will always work for New York, but 121.5 is universal an probably the best bet for rapid communication to the nearest facility.
 
How much good does it do to figure this out with the flight 2/3rds of the way to its destination? Shouldn't this stuff be figured out before the flight is ever boarded?
 
The only problem with this story is that the incident occured on 26December and this thread was started on 18December.

Of course time dilation effects due to proximity of the Bermuda Triangle could be a factor.

If it is the same event I'm surprised a DL crew had never heard of NAS Key West.
 

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