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Good morning, UALbrat:


Well, in my humble opinion, aviation industry and any other industries are going through economic down turn right now. If you think aviation industry situation is bad, please consider tele-communication or computer industry. There are as bad as aviation industry.




Jeff
 
The only thing I can say about flight schools is "Don't expect the school to spoon-feed you everything you need to know. No matter where you go, "YOU" are responsible to take the initiative and learn the material. Flight instructors cannot pour their knowledge into students. Student need to understand that they can teach themselves a lot of the material, and not just rely on their instructors to teach them everything.
"Students have to study," it is disappointing when an instructor goes out of his/her way to teach a student, and then later find out that the student didn't take the time to make sure he/she understood the material. What happens next is that the student gets frustrated, thinks the instructor can't teach, pays double what it should cost, and starts complaining about the school.
This might all be avoided if the student went out on his/her own to do research, or go over the material now and then just to be sure it's in the brain.
Again, no matter where you decide to go, take the time to study on your own, it can save you time, money,and headaches because you will be prepared for the next lesson. Who knows, maybe the chief pilot of the school will notice your efforts and offer you that flight instructing position when you are done. Just because you spent thousands of dollars at the school, doesn't mean the school will hire you, especially if you are lazy, or you have a bad attitude. Flight schools are businesses,they need people who will make their school look good.

learning to fly can be fun, teaching it can be rewarding.:cool:
 
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think about a local FBO. All my ratings(pvt/inst/com/cfi) cost me a total of $15,500 (1999)...and this from a DC area airport. Then they hired me as a CFI. I spent a year there building time and now I fly for a regional...it's a better way to go IMHO. It seems to me that the Comair ad i see has the pix of the same graduating class for like TWO FREAKIN YEARS...wonder why?

BTW, I was 30 when i started...goodluck
 
Airman Flight School in Oklahoma offers a professional course that takes around 6 months. This is Private through CFII. Good luck!
 
the turtle said:
It seems to me that the Comair ad i see has the pix of the same graduating class for like TWO FREAKIN YEARS...wonder why?

Yeah, and what's with that one guy who looks like he's taking a sh*t?
 
Go to Mesa

I'll be #2 for Mesa Airlines Pilot Development, behind 'Bobbyamd'. Mesa just hired 50 or so of the graduates in the last month. The contract might suck, but it's a job. 0 time to the right seat of a 1900, ERJ, CRJ, or Dash 8 in 2 years. No CFI, not much in the way of politics. Managment at MPD is a former F-4 guy who doesn't do crap, a proactive recruiter at the college, and a dispatch agent who is cranky b/c she has to actually run the whole program. Be nice to her, get your rateings, move on. Piece of cake, and great training too.

If you don't want to go to a WO flight school, I'd go Flight Safety. their training is just as good, maybe better, but there's no job at the end, or even an interview. An interview these days is huge. Doubt that'll change in 2 years with 10,000 mainliners furloughed.

Commair Academy seems to have alot of haters, not many guys getting hired. ATP school sucks too. Phoenix East is a factory. You'll get the rateings, but not the training.

Don't belive the hype! Get your private first at a local FBO before you start putting up the big $ for a career after 1 flight (and a bad one too)
 
Just a quick question . . . .

stillaboo said:
Mesa just hired 50 or so of the graduates in the last month.
Were they hired by Freedom or by regular Mesa? I realize that with the new contract all Mesa Air Group pilots are on the same list, but undoubtedly there will be some acrimony. MAPD grads going to Freedom is/was a consideration about choosing MAPD over another school.

One point about getting your Private before going to Mesa. As I was leaving there were some new students who were challenging the Private part of the course. I don't believe any of them made it. For discussion's sake I assume these folks failed the challenge fair and square (We all know how Mesa excels at making money off people.). There is a lot of Mesa LOFT philosophy to absorb in a short time for the average student. One is almost better off starting off at Mesa from zero time. I found that to be true when I was working for ERAU. Most new students who tried to test out of Riddle's Private course failed their stage check. They simply did not fly to standards.

You have a chance to interview for a CFI job with FlightSafety. At the moment there is a question as to when one would be hired. I hear there is a six-month waiting list. However, that could disappear overnight if some regional takes a few FSI instructors.
 
I'll second the idea of getting your ratings at the local FBO or flight school. I looked into Comair, FlightSafety, Airman in Norman, Pan Am, Phoenix East, Air Desert Pacific, and with the help of an ADP instructor who told me I'd be better off doing it on my own, chose that route. I actually started out flying some of ADPs beaters, and they are just that: beaters. I did a repo for them once only to find out that the reason it was ferried was because of an engine fire. That explained all the white powder in the cowling!

I don't regret choosing a smaller school for a second. I had the same instructor for every license and rating, and my training was consistent. I finished up my ratings, built some time in anything I could touch, went to school, worked a full time job, and was hired two years later by a regional.

If you think you'll be able to do your own research and keep your own pace, think about a local flight school.

Just my $0.02.
 
I just recieved an ad from Delta Academy offering free airfare to FL to tour their facilities. Sounds kind of like a marketing gimmic to me.
 

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